I’m no Lemmy scientist, but judging by how the post ended up at c/RedditMigration , I think we’re very much at the oops stage
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I got a science degree in the late 90’s. Back then my eco profs talked about a lot of worst case scenarios that might occur in 2050’s and beyond. Things like the break down of the mid-atlantic conveyor current, the collapse of the antarctic ice shelf, weakening of the air currents that feed the amazon with sand from the Sahara, and sudden drops of sea life populations (like crabs). Things that are all actively in progress now - 50 years ahead of those “worst case scenarios” of the 90s. Oops was a while back.
No, we’re in the middle of Oops.
The next step is the part where we are burning and drowning and dying in vast numbers.
IMO starvation is more likely for the majority of us.
Perhaps. Resource scarcity leads to wars as well.
Crop production might actually go up globally, however unevenly. War is the more likely outcome as the losers get desperate and the winners don’t care.
Crop production may rise in the long-term, but in the shorter term the brittle nature of the food supply chain in this globalized economy means store shelves could easily go empty overnight if there’s a drought or two, or hell, if wars break out all over due to other resource scarcity.
@entropicdrift Yeah good luck exporting your siberian wheat through broken supply chains in a conflict zone.
Yes, we have seen this last year with the famine in the Horn of Africa. They had arranged to ship in grain from Ukraine but then the war happened.
Even though they knew they were going to have another bad harvest and were proactive about supplies, that wasn’t enough.
Is this a lost Lemming?
They warned us even back in the 70’s that it was bad, then it’d suddenly get worse all of a sudden with little to no warning as things snowballed, but of course the oil execs just tried to shut up their own scientists and block them from influencing congress instead of listening. Even though they were warned that the threat was “Existential”.
Money talks.
No dear, this is still the oops! part. You have no idea how horrible the fuck! age is going to be.
c/lostlemmings?
The graph ends because we die 😔
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That’s what they’re hoping, but what they’re probably going to find is that “eat the rich” might become more than a metaphor, and that once people with the guns and muscles realize that they don’t have to listen to the rich anymore…
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And then nature begins healing. 🌹
But we take a lot of it down with us along the way, so it’s got thousands or millions of years of work to do in order to return to how it was.
It will never return to how it was… it will be something different… as far as I’m aware it never returns it just moves forward… this is/was our chance
We’re actually still in the oops stage, just you wait…
I think once we pass the point of no return in terms of society and government stopping emissions being unable to stop runaway climate change, we cross from Oops to Fuck.
This might have already happened.
Definitely has happened. The amount of burning from wildfires is definitely a sign of it hitting the runaway effect - All that released carbon means even hotter temps which means more wildfires which means more released carbon which means…
This needs to be a 2D stacked chart, with a vertical axis of ‘number of people’. More people are going into the later categories these days, but not everyone.
Edit: I was going to say a 100% stacked chart with ‘percentage of people’, but just the number is better, and may be funnier right at the end as the last few fuckers dwindle out.
I wonder how many times the Earth’s climate changed before humans were intelligent enough to notice.
Probably lots of times.
Yeah. And those were major extinction events.
The rate of change and severity is much higher now: https://xkcd.com/1732/
