• BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I feel like trying to do this in a country where 2-3 years of military service and training is a requirement for all adults shows a lack of forethought. This seems like a society where you’re going to want to try real real hard to keep the people content.

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      1 year ago

      Seems that way, but keep in mind that military service brings with it a military mindset of heirarchy. With everyone being primed to accept a “this person is my superior,” falling back on taking orders is a lot more palatable.

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        1 year ago

        You don’t know shit about Israel.

        I have lived in Israel my entire life, and have served for 3 years in the IDF.

        People don’t just follow orders blindly - in fact, in the IDF, if you receive an extreme order from your superior (for example, if you’re told to harm an innocent person), you WILL go to prison if you follow that order, and it is your obligation to refuse it.

        Not to mention the fact the the culture in Israel is extremely informal and lax. Israelis take pride in not following the rules.

        Israelis in general are extremely distrusting of authority (think about it - Jews have been suffering because of it for 2000 years).

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          But how often has refusing an illegal direct order not been punished? “Breaking the Silence” members have risked jail time for refusing to commit war crimes. The military replaced brigade commander Ben Dunkelman for refusing to expel all Arabs from Nazareth under Ben Gurion’s orders.

          You’re talking about more myth than reality.

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        1 year ago

        The value of the Russian ruble has fallen by almost half in the last year. They have taken a severe pay cut, that ten percent doesn’t even kind of bring them up par.

    • null_@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Great point, after all we are all familiar with the historical example of the Hitler Youth overthrowing the government in Nazi Germany.