• FIash Mob #5678@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    People like AOC are why I’m generally convinced my vote really doesn’t matter. We elected a Democratic president with a congressional majority last time, and in return most of the country is working multiple jobs to survive AND you no longer have the right to abortion.

    When we get conservative outcomes regardless, what does my Democratic vote really matter for?

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      What? It could absolutely be worse. Look at the policies in Florida/Texas/Idaho against education, trans people, voting rights, labor rights, etc. I’m glad we at least got who we got. We could have done way worse.

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        This. As much I would like someone to really change things for the better, I could absolutely see laws like the ones passed in Florida and Texas being passed nationally if elections go poorly.

      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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        I’d say you’re both right. But we have to be careful not to let the fear of something worse take over the potential progress (which often happens). Ultimately, the lack of progress is still a problem, even in the face of not being as bad as it could be.

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          When the “something worse” is literal fascism, there are no other choices. Stopping fascism is more important than any progressive agenda item because those agenda items will never happen with fascists in power.

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            They’ll also never happen without progressives in power. Keeping the status quo based solely on the fear of the other guy taking over sounds like the last 50 years (at least) of US politics.

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      Your Democratic vote is the only thing preventing this country becoming a theocracy. We had one term of Trump and look at the damage he caused. Imagine what a second term would look like.

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      What, exactly, do you think Biden could have personally one to prevent the Supreme Court from doing what they were stacked by Trump to specifically do?

      The president can’t overrule the Supreme Court. He can’t appoint any new judges until there is a vacancy.

      And the economic crisis isn’t a uniquely American problem. It’s also impacting Europe, Canada, and most other western nations. What can the president of the US do to directly and quickly “fix” something of that scale? Something that had been several decades in the making?

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        Well… he could… if the GOP had the decency to impeach corrupt SCOTUS. But, if the GOP were decent enough to do that, then there wouldn’t probably have been corrupt judges that needed impeaching in the first place.

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      fuck man. you gotta be in a pretty good spot not being able to tell the difference. there are people who live and die on the outcomes of these politics. if you really think it isn’t enough, get involved in a political project, join a mutual aid program, whatever you think is important, but genuinely even if it barely matters at all (and to be clear, it actually does matter a whole fucking lot, or republicans wouldn’t be pouring billions of oil dollars into mobilizing their base) its literally just a single day at most of effort. if you can’t do that, you genuinely don’t have any right to complain about conservative outcomes.

    • HereticalDoughnut@beehaw.org
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      Congratulations on coming away with the most ignorant apathetic take possible. So many issues, especially at a local level, are decided by a small number of geriatric voters with nothing better to do and little to no skin in the game as they’re likely to pass before the effects of their vote even matter.

      If you want to move the needle and encourage more progressives candidates and policy then you need to prove statistically that you and people like you will show up at polls, especially primaries and local election. No one is going to run on likelihood that so far unrealized voters will materialize at polls.

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        It is very difficult to overcome decades of propaganda that deemed any leftist ideology as evil.

        The best move to create movements at the local level, but with the national Overton Window continuously sliding to the right, that also murders left wing discussions on the local level.

        It’s hard not to be apathetic in a nation that thinks housing and health care are luxuries or that LGTBQ+ people existing is a crime.