Hasan Piker is begging Democrats to get angry and fight Trump
Hasan Piker is begging Democrats to get angry and fight Trump
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Hasan Piker is begging Democrats to ‘get angry’ and fight Trump
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Another moderately worded letter is in the works as we speak.
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Let the finger wagging commence!
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Just you wait, 11 more of those and it will be a sternly worded letter. 16 of those and they’ll receive a demerit, then they’ll really be regretting their choices. You don’t even want to know what happens if they receive 7 demerits.
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But if they do that they might upset their corpo donors!! Thats terrible!! Instead they should just do strongly worded press conference.
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This is what I think he is talking about when he says fight. I believe he is refering to embracing popular policies (I.e. Universal healthcare, public housing programs, etc.). Here is a link to what democratic politicians CAN do to slow the slide into fascism.
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“with his 4.4 million mostly progressive young male followers on Twitch and YouTube”
LOL the author makes it sound like it’s Timcast or something
There is a pretty diverse audience, it ain’t just “bro dudes”
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But if they Fight Trump they MIGHT Make People's lives Not as Bad and that's COUNTER to the DNC and Chuck Schumer Strategy of MAKING SURE AMERICANS SUFFER!
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Not sure why he is trying to change the Democratic party instead of aligning with a different party like PSL or Greens and trying to change them. The DNC will never allow the Democrats to change. Never.
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Democrats and left leaning content creators are great at one meaningless thing when it comes to meaningful action that helps regular people:
THEATRICS AND PERFORMANCES that do minimal impact.
And I swear to the heavens seeing each content creator ragebait and make thumbnails of "omg you won't believe what the supreme court did to Trump today!"
Im so tired of this Rollercoaster that Ive stopped caring about the macro. If our system can't be saved from its designed structure of checks and balances then maybe it doesnt deserve to last.
But im done letting the macro impact my mental health. Im gonna enjoy my life as much as possible with my family because I cant do shit else except vote and move on. And ill die whenever the fuck shit hits the fan. And ill have no regrets. Fuck it all.
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But you've spend decades convincing democrats that anger solves nothing and working with people is always the better way. Don't be surprised you have no warriors when you've only been training sheep.
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I don’t even know who this guy is, but getting angry won’t get you anything and violence will only get you killed.
Boycot
Fund raise
Protest
Vote
Those are our options at this point.
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And he's saying that the Democrats should push for those, basically, instead of doing... check notes nothing.
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Hey now, don't forget the signs they held up quietly while nobody was looking.
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Bernie and AOC just held the largest political rally in Iowa since 08 Obama...
If you think they can be doing more, everyone would love to hear what path is faster.
But we have the DNC and the Dem's most popular politicians doing a nationwide tour whipping up support and explaining why shit is fucked and how we can fix it.
Like, I just don't understand what more people want?
Not the result, but what they should be doing to fix things faster.
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but getting angry won’t get you anything
Being angry is a prerequisite to the things you listed, and also, you forgot the most important item: Organize. There's simply no way America gets a happy ending without a general strike, and the work to make that possible starts now, right this second.
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I'm of the opinion that MLK Jr. was largely successful because folks saw the alternative was Malcolm X... and they still fought MLK Jr. tooth and nail.
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You need two things to get a political movement going. First you need to reach a critical mass by creating public sympathy for your movement. This can almost only be done with peaceful protests like MLK. Violent resistance is too easy to demonize and shut down when people do not sympathize with your cause.
Then the critical mass needs to be turned into action, which is what Malcolm X did.
If you start off the movement too radically, it will never be able to reach critical mass.
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He's the current most watched left wing political streamer.
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He's not "left wing" he doesn't want political parties...
For comparison he shares a lot of policy views with AOC and Bernie, but they wanted to reform the Dem party by kicking neoliberals out of DNC leadership.
It was a long fight but we just accomplished it.
Piker doesn't care. And still thinks we should destroy both parties. Which makes zero sense to destroy a resource we just captured.
It would be great to reform our political system and do away with the two parties. But trying it now would be insane.
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Every change for the good must be backed up with “And we will fight you to the death over this.”
Fourth box.
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We did all those things, none of them worked.
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I don’t even know who this guy is
His uncle was a founder of The Young Turks, and gave him an internship. One day a host was sick so they plugged him in, and then he started streaming on his own.
He's an incredibly wealthy nepo baby who doesn't actually understand politics, just that shit is fucked.
So he can never articulate solutions, he just complains about problems.
His entire business model is getting on twitch. Reading news articles about how fucked shit is, then saying:
Chat, is this fucked? This is fucked, right?
And everyone agrees with him because shit has been fucked for decades.
But you'll never hear give a single solution, so compared to stuff like Cody Johnson I just don't see the appeal. I guess he makes some people feel smart when they agree that shits fucked.
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I havent watched him, so cant speak directly for his content, but isn't pointing out problems to a large audience better than not?
If he doesnt know the solutions, why not leave that to someone who does instead of suggesting something that could possibly be harmful?
I think highlighting the real issues to the population is important because right now the blame for everything is wrongly put on immigrants and minorities.
I know Twitch causes echochambers in the channels, but maybe a few right wing people are curious about his stream and it could make them think differently?
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The Democrats were voted out of power. Stupid Americans. You voted for this shit. You gotta live with it.
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It’s like there isn’t enough understanding how fucking stupid of a move this was. It was the worst possible scenario.
Think about yelling at a couple of white chess pieces left in the board “GET ANGRY! Fight!” when the full black set is there minus a couple of pawns.
I’m not saying don’t but you don’t have much to actually do anything with. Protesting and civil disobedience I would think a lot the best options and it doesn’t seem like people have an appetite for those at scale.
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The issues are that 1.) It never seems to accomplish much beyond getting some poor protesters killed by inept cops that never got training on how to use beanbag or rubber rounds, and 2.) The US is a BIG place. We can’t all just take a day off in the middle of the week to fly across the country. We’re broke and tired, trying to make rent, not waste a few hundred precious dollars to potentially get killed for saying the wrong thing.
Now I get it, this is absolutely the time to be protesting. Now more than ever. But man, I’m tired. I’m broke. I’m lucky to have enough gas to make it to work. I can’t pick up and go to DC whenever.
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I most certainly did not and have not.
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And he took his part by spouting russian propaganda and bashing democrats relentlessy during the election cycle.
Trump wants a "civil war", and he's helping.
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"I want more out of AOC and Bernie,” he said. “I want them to channel the anger and resentment that they have towards issues to chip away and undermine Trump's agenda.”
He keeps saying that...
But can't go any further with what he wants.
Dudes acting like a toddler who was told McDonald's ice cream machine is broke. The toddler doesn't have a plan of action, they're just upset. Even when you're actively driving them to a new place to get ice cream, all they know is they don't have any yet
Not sure what else to expect from a nepo baby streamer...
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But can’t go any further with what he wants.
He's mentioned times and times again that he's convinced there's a wide interest in medicare and reproductive rights. I'm not sure where your expectations from Twitch streamer sits though, maybe you want him to run for president?
EDIT: also, more relevant, the whole "let's not arrest and deport people arbitrarily".
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He’s mentioned times and times again that he’s convinced there’s a wide interest in medicare and reproductive rights.
Things progressive politicians already know, because they're big reasons they're already in office....
also, more relevant, the whole “let’s not arrest and deport people arbitrarily”.
Same answer...
And I still have the same question:
What does anyone expect them to do?
If you think Bernie and AOC can do more, I'm sure they'd love to know how you expect them to accomplish it. Seriously, if you, this nepo streamer, literally anyone has a better path, everyone on the left would love to hear it.
Like, the chair change is huge, and the biggest win we've had in half a century.
We're on our way to get ice cream, we just can't instantly teleport to a new McDonald's, we have to drive there. And no amount of screaming or crying will get there faster. Believe me, everyone in the car would rather be there already
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didnt he just talk shit about bidens cancer? thats Republican behavior.
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Comments like this? That’s BlueMAGA behavior.
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my non gendered brother, cancer is a sensitive topic and we shouldnt be celebrating people getting it.
also hasan implied not to vote, doesnt get much more "BlueMAGA" then convinceing people not to vote blue.
im an anarchist, not a hypocrisy lover.because baby, im an anarchist, not tech ceo/failed data broker.
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That's just not how politics works in the US. Politics is a career, or in many cases a stepping stone to a career. They're not there to fight anyone, they're there to achieve their personal ambitions. They're not ideological warriors, they're white collar elites. They don't necessarily have any ideological commitments, and as such they will simply adopt whatever the ideological paradigm is at any given time.
I don't expect any politician to fight Trump, if doing so means compromising their career ambitions. If there's going to be a fight, it has to be fought by the people, not the politicians.
I think it might be time to start harassing politicians to do their jobs.
No I think it's time to harass politicians to get jobs. Politician was never supposed to be a career path despite turning into one
And you can expect a ton of people to push back against anyone trying to improve things for people.