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  • It's funny how all 3 countries involved in this (4 if you count Russia) are being hurled towards catastrophe and likely world ending destruction by powerful men who are not even admired by a large percentage of the populations they control.

    Nobody that actually wants a regime change in any of these countries, wants this war to happen.

    A destabilizing war, allegedly necessary to create regime change, will act as a chaotic distraction from questionable leadership, and help each of these men, at least temporarily, tighten their slipping power grips.

    The people of Iran, Israel, and the U.S. are not fighting each other. 3 or 4 men are fighting with angry threatening words and tweets, and making the choice to put all of humanity at risk to do so. Fucking absurd.

  • I'm not defending cluster bombs, I'm saying it's bullshit to kill multiple families in an apartment building and pretend you're the fucking good guys because you have more sophisticated tech. Especially when there was no reason to attack Iran like this in the first place.

    He's been accusing Iran of being weeks away from having nuclear weapons since 2012. He almost gets voted out of leadership and when he doesn't he jumps on the opportunity to start bombing Iran and taking out these scientists (and everyone around them) who he had been targeting since November.

    He and Trump are going to get us all killed to gain money and power. Fuck them and fuck anyone that wants to keep defending this ignorant bullshit, as if people can't see clear as day, exactly what these sacks of shit are doing.

  • Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi warned on Saturday that if the U.S. were to get involved in the Israel-Iran conflict, the result would be “very, very dangerous” for everybody

    Araghchi also claimed that Iran has “many indications” that the U.S. has been involved in Israel’s bombardments of Iran since “day one.”

  • Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi warned on Saturday that if the U.S. were to get involved in the Israel-Iran conflict, the result would be “very, very dangerous” for everybody

    Araghchi also claimed that Iran has “many indications” that the U.S. has been involved in Israel’s bombardments of Iran since “day one.”

  • But like... Presumably, you're not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

    No, they're not precise at all unless you consider also killing their families and potentially an entire building full of people to be acceptable "precision."

    That's why it seems like bullshit to pretend lower tech cluster bombs are an inexcusable evil compared to Palantir AI drones.

  • Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,

    And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.

    Alex Karp's biography makes it pretty clear he's trying to spin this shit as every American's patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that's something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.

  • I think it's probably pretty hard to keep simultaneously assassinating 10 targets and their families under wraps, so they're trying to get ahead of accusations by pretending it's a show of military strength instead of horrifying skynet murder.

    It looks especially bad when they're pointing the finger at Iran for fucking cluster bombs.

    The argument being cluster bombs are a dirty move, but using simultaneous AI powered assassin drones to strike while people are sleeping makes you the good guys?

  • Are you ok with just accepting any innocent humans as collateral damage? Bc as far as slippery slopes go, accepting that is a fast track to dehumanization.

    I don't believe those scientists deserved to die, but even if you do, why did their spouses and children deserve to die too?

    Try to imagine you're the neighbor of that scientist. Good chance you've barely interacted with each other more than a passing nod of acknowledgement when you're coming and going from your home. Do you and your whole family deserve to die bc of proximity to a target?

    Apply that same question x all 10 scientists they killed. It almost makes the KGB targeting people with poison seem like humanitarian work by comparison.

    If these were your friends and family being killed by a foreign government while they slept in their beds, you would have to be a psychopath to just brush it off as necessary collateral damage.

  • It sounds nearly identical to the program Time said Palantir was using in Israel in December 2024 to help track Hamas

    “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity.

    Except if they just come right out and say that, it becomes more difficult to deny the U.S. is already directly involved. Especially since they just gave members of Palantir positions in the U.S. military

  • NOW thats what I call propaganda

  • Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

  • It's guaranteed the number of bystanders that were killed while they killed these "targets" is not zero.

  • It doesn't

  • Those are American drones from Palantir.

  • And everyone in their family, building, and general vicinity, and anyone in that 10% of targets who are misidentified by Palantir's predictive policing/facial recognition tech apparently?

  • No it doesn't.

  • It's not normal. It's ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.

  • coups aren't reserved just for autocratic regime's like Iran's.

    I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, and yeah I agree. Any suggestions for how to prepare for a work around?

    heavily censored in any country undergoing a coup attempt.

    I guess it could be way worse, but the internet is already a different place than it was this time last year.

  • Hopefully, I just don't put it past him to be envisioning a false flag something happening over the next 2 weeks that will suddenly help gain public support for/ allow the U.S. to have a reason to retaliate against Iran.

  • politics @lemmy.world

    Some Democratic senators regret voting to confirm Kristi Noem as DHS secretary

    www.nbcnews.com /politics/congress/democratic-senators-regret-voting-confirm-kristi-noem-dhs-secretary-rcna213809
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Gov. Landry signs new drone defense law; first in nation

    www.kadn.com /news/state/gov-landry-signs-new-drone-defense-law-first-in-nation/article_c257bacd-474c-47a4-8341-c5516cd44d6b.html
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Lawmakers Demand Palantir Provide Information About U.S. Contracts

    www.nytimes.com /2025/06/17/technology/palantir-government-contracts-democrats-letter.html
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Israel's spy agency used AI and smuggled-in drones to prepare attack on Iran

    apnews.com /article/mossad-iran-israel-weapons-missiles-a504ee31c70857c8d86a0d066997e344
  • News @lemmy.world

    Israel's Spy Agency Used AI and Smuggled-In Drones to Prepare Attack on Iran

    www.usnews.com /news/world/articles/2025-06-17/how-israel-used-spies-smuggled-drones-and-ai-to-stun-and-hobble-iran
  • News @lemmy.world

    U.S. tells allies it won't join war unless Iran targets Americans

    www.axios.com /2025/06/16/us-join-war-bomb-iran-target-americans
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    How Drone Swarms Work—From Iran’s Shahed Attack to Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb

    www.scientificamerican.com /article/how-drone-swarms-work-from-irans-shahed-attack-to-ukraines-operation/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Is the U.S. Vulnerable to a Drone Sneak Attack?

    chroniclesmagazine.org /web/is-the-u-s-vulnerable-to-a-drone-sneak-attack/
  • News @lemmy.world

    Iran leader Khamenei sees his inner circle hollowed out by Israel

    www.reuters.com /world/middle-east/iran-leader-khamenei-sees-his-inner-circle-hollowed-out-by-israel-2025-06-17/
  • News @lemmy.world

    Democrat Seeks to Limit Trump’s War Powers Amid Middle East Escalation

    www.nytimes.com /2025/06/16/world/middleeast/kaine-trump-war-powers.html
  • News @lemmy.world

    Iran tells UN strikes on Israel are self-defense

    www.reuters.com /world/middle-east/iran-tells-un-strikes-israel-are-self-defense-2025-06-16/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Palantir hits new highs amid Israel-Iran conflict

    sherwood.news /markets/palantir-hits-new-highs-amid-israel-iran-conflict/
  • News @lemmy.world

    ‘Sanctuary city’ governors object to Trump deployment of troops into Los Angeles

    lailluminator.com /2025/06/14/repub/governors-los-angeles/
  • News @lemmy.world

    Pro-Kremlin Media Hail Los Angeles Unrest As 'Civil War'

    www.rferl.org /a/kremlin-media-los-angeles-protests/33441285.html
  • News @lemmy.world

    Israel’s Ambition: Destroy the Heart of Iran’s Nuclear Program

    www.nytimes.com /2025/06/12/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-program-israel.html
  • News @lemmy.world

    Netanyahu thanks Trump for support; tells Iranians ‘your liberation from tyranny is closer than ever'

    www.timesofisrael.com /liveblog_entry/netanyahu-thanks-trump-for-support-tells-iranians-your-liberation-from-tyranny-is-closer-than-ever/
  • News @lemmy.world

    Mayor says Los Angeles being used as ‘test case’ by federal government – as it happened

    www.theguardian.com /us-news/live/2025/jun/09/los-angeles-protests-live-tensions-flare-trump-deploys-national-guard-troops
  • politics @lemmy.world

    DHS removes list of 'sanctuary jurisdictions'

    www.police1.com /federal-law-enforcement/department-of-homeland-security-releases-list-of-cities-counties-labeled-as-sanctuary-jurisdictions
  • News @lemmy.world

    EXPLAINER: Here’s how the president could deploy National Guard troops in Texas

    www.click2houston.com /news/local/2025/06/09/explainer-heres-how-the-president-could-deploy-national-guard-troops-in-texas/
  • politics @lemmy.world

    National Guard, Marine deployment in Los Angeles costs $134 million: Pentagon

    www.usatoday.com /story/news/politics/2025/06/10/national-guard-marine-deployment-la-cost/84132086007/