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Good point!

Fair enough

Hence “calling yourself a duck does not make you a duck”

Yes. Fools will tell you the Nazis were socialists, people of a normal intelligence will tell you that calling yourself a duck does not make you a duck.

Fair enough, slavery is awfully attractive to them

Possibly, I just don’t see the financial incentive to restricting women financially. Because how can they increase their debt impulsively if they have to ask permission?

I understand why the powers that be want to restrict reproductive rights, it bolsters the future workforce, but preventing any the working class from spending money wouldn’t make any sense.

Like, yeah, a lot of these people do hate women, but they’re primarily motivated by pursuit of profit.

Nah see I don’t think that’d ever happen. The banks have too much stake in women continuing to hold bank accounts so they can poach their debt. Capitalism wouldn’t allow it.

Reminds me of a line from Festival Song by Jeff Rosenstock:

“We’re not stupid people, but this financial depression
Has got everyone believing all that we can do is nothing
'Cause we organize through avenues they lace with advertisements
So the ones we try to rage against are still lining their pockets”

I really like the way Tommy douglas put it

I would say strategic voting for biden at this point to prevent Donny from winning is a fine reason to vote Biden right now.

Let’s not forget that their system is broken and unless you vote one of those two parties, your vote doesn’t matter, and Donny wants your vote to matter even less. Even just to attempt to uphold political democracy it’s worth voting Biden, but that’s what he’s riding on and that’s a fucking shame.

By all means, if the alternative wasn’t thrusting the US into fascism, I would absolutely say don’t vote for the person supporting genocide, alas that is not the case.

Overtly criminal or overtly fascist?

I could back a criminal if I found the reason to be morally sound. Let’s not forget that some crimes, morally speaking, were the right thing to do (think hiding jews during the holocaust as an extreme example, and maybe possession of certain drugs as an example of something morally ambiguous that wouldn’t keep me from voting for a good candidate)

Using campaign money to pay hush money? That’s just in line with the shit Donny already does; it’s dishonest as all hell and definitely not morally sound. He’s also clearly a fascist.

I’m Canadian, but I can still tell you why Democrats are more likely to turn against their own politicians.

People who vote Democrat tend to be more educated, and academics tend to lean left. The left-leaning academics are far more left leaning than the Democratic party and are aware that, while the Democrats are the lesser of two evils, they still stand to uphold the status quo for the ruling class, whereas the Republicans have devolved into explicit fascism.

Because the Republicans have fallen into fascism, the people who vote Republican are either undereducated and fall for the propaganda or they’re part of the ruling class and want more money.

My partner’s father is a member of the canadian communist party and he has this framed and hung up in his house

The problem has always been rampant capitalism.

No system is without corruption, but late stage capitalism is fucking ugly

I’m far more partial to a semi-planned economy, personally.

Edit: additionally, although we are talking specifically about the states, I feel this image still applies to the discussion on class. For context, Tommy Douglas was the man responsible for Canada’s nationalized healthcare

Dude, come on. You were criticizing the – in your mind monolithic – left of getting angry too easily when you waltzed in here already pissed, hoping to make some “libtards” angry and prove your point. But you were the one that came in here pissed. You really owned the libs with that one bud.

There is no reason to have a real discussion with you because you never came in here for a discussion. That was never your intention and that is very clear.

You got me!

Dude, you came barrelling into this comment section already angry and ready for a fight.

That makes sense!

Wasn’t the movie being a satire of the book a conscious choice of verhoeven’s?

I remember having hope, then being pessimistic, then learning to have hope again because there is no action without hope, and no progress without action.