People are usually pleased to see my bacon double chub

Ask the Rohingya

Why We’re Capitalizing Bajor

The Times has changed its style on the term’s usage to better reflect a shared cultural identity. Here’s what led to that decision…

Zappa was no hippy

IE regulatory capture and soothing bullshit?

Thus is a holdover from half remembered lessons on Plato I guess. Socrates is contrasted with the rhetoricians as seeking Truth, a noumenal thing beyond us that we discover (or recall as Socrates would put it). The rhetoricians representative Gorgias has his argument famously summed up as “man is the measure of all things”, that is to say that nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so.

Rhetoricians famously taught people how to convince others of their point of view, essentially modern debate technique. Socrates undermined this practice by pointing out that the skills employed (tone of voice, rhythm, eloquence) had nothing to do with determining truth.

With this argument in mind we can see why “rhetoric” is now used as a shorthand for emotional appeals, or style over substance. Rhetoric is what you rely on when you cannot make a structured and logical argument, while in theory the truth is the truth even if delivered in a dull monotone of limited vocabulary.

Remember when they AId Harris as a demon and she the result looked hot as fuck

This won’t change any minds in Texas because the anti abortion position is that every aborted baby should already be added to the infant mortality rate. Thus, from their perspective, the mortality rate has either not changed or decreased.

Leftist around here just means a friend of americas enemies, economics and social issues never seem to enter into it, excepto as meaningless verbal cudgels.

I think he looks much better that way, kind of like an evil Michael Caine

You’re right that that is not at all what I mean by context. I mean the kind of context that can make what appears to be a simple question much more complex.

I would say this thread supports my position more than yours, in that the only engaging discussion happening here is a result of attacking memes as propaganda. The actual content of the meme （socialism and memes are both about sharing) has been almost entirely ignored, probably because it is so shallow and meaningless (as are all memes) that there really isn’t much to say about it.

I would say that political discourse has become shorter, more emotional, and less informed and complex, and this very visible in the use of memes rather than arguments in modern politics. As a theory heavy person I would have thought you would agree that this is contributing to worsening conditions all around.

Excellent, the US is also one party. I don’t disagree. Now have you noticed that things are actually getting worse there now that all discourse is in meme format?

Rebuttals to memes lacking context and being appeals to emotion? That’s all I actually said. You folks haven’t talked about anything except the impurity of the sources of my terminology.

Ok, if you really want to ignore my point about memes and how they reflect poorly on those who use them for political messaging, we can talk about words.

Stating that a word was inventing by a rich person doesn’t make it invalid, stating that the CIA promoted an idea also doesn’t make it invalid. Nevertheless, if totalitarian isn’t a word we are allowed to use in you doubleplusgood circles, how about you give me a word that describes a country with a single party, ruling in perpetuity? I would say memes are useful for [insert your word here] propaganda

Memes are short, contextless appeals to emotion and thus the perfect format for propaganda

Does this satisfy the theory pedant in you? Do you have anything to say about the actual point being made?

Lol, ok buddy.

IE: Memes are short, contextless appeals to emotion and thus the perfect format for totalitarian propaganda

Tankie seems to refer to people who support Russia and China, regardless of what they think about domestic economics.

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