If you spend the whole time sucking up to fascists, people are just going to cut out the middleman and elect one to run the place.

As a fellow Australian, I don’t understand why you’re surprised.

“Hold your nose and vote for the lesser evil” may be pragmatic, but it doesn’t get people emotionally engaged. It doesn’t get you infectious enthusiasm and passion. It gets you reluctant, dejected compliance, and that simply does not catch fire.

On the other side you have nothing but emotional engagement; god knows it’s not a rational or pragmatic choice there. Trump does nothing but pander to hatred and cruelty and fear and the power fantasies of gullible idiots, and it fucking works. Cheap shallow emotional satisfaction, no matter how stupid an idea it is. You know, like junk food and binge drinking and cigarettes and pokies; things that people know full well are ruining their lives, but they continue to seek them out regardless.

If the dems ever want to win, they will have to make the progressives fall in love with them, and you don’t get that by backing genocide unconditionally, you just don’t.

They didn’t get the oh-god-yes, just a not-no, and that does not equal consent.

Well, Democrats can rest easy knowing that Palestinian children will continue being murdered.

I hope it was worth it.

Even when it’s the “most important election ever”, they don’t just pull out all the stops to ensure it’s a shoe-in - they try to finesse it down to a hair, and get away with 99% of the bastardry of the other guy.

Exactly the same thing here in Australia, every single fucking time. And 90% of the time, they lose.

it’s an effective meta for rich people.

Because the conditions required for fascism to take root have been incubating for decades.

Massive wealth inequality, insecure employment, non-existent labor laws and worker’s rights, hollowed-out education, healthcare and social services, large corporations getting to write their own laws verbatim, political parties sucking dick for their donors, endless war ensuring unlimited money for the military-industrial complex, demonization of brown-people-of-the-week, fetishization of ‘the troops’ and ongoing acceptance of brutality.

People are poor, desperate, ignorant, exploited and forgotten, they’re shown every day that killing the shit out of outsiders is the solution to all the country’s problems, anyone pushing actual progressive ideals is shut down and demonized as a threat to the profits of the 0.1%, giving people a choice between rightwing bastardry and neoliberal bastardry as their only lens through which to see the world.

Give that the opportunity to flare up and of course it’s fucking going to. The republicans want it, the dems do nothing to prevent it.

It’s like watching a party get the wrong kind of rowdy all night, you keep supplying drinks regardless, then you wonder why it turns into a fight, oh no how could this ever happen?

Sucks to your ass-mar

I mean for god’s sake, you had a spell in each hand but they didn’t do spell combos.

cmon man

oh no, not implications.

Ah yes, opposing genocide is a radical far-left position. Of course.

But they continue to suck his dick regardless.

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There is no planet B.

Earth is the only place that could sustain human life.

We have not found any other bodies with the basic composition, atmosphere or temperature to have even the remote potential for sustaining life, even with the most extravagantly optimistic technology and unlimited resources to apply it.

Nix, nada, no dice.

We are not getting off this rock - and if we fuck it up, we’re done.

Nonsense. Where do you think lawyers come from?

Why do you only frame the issue in terms of the voters’ responsibilities, and never in terms of the candidate’s responsibilities?

Why aren’t the politicians the ones who need to make hard choices? Why can’t they get wedged on the issues for once?

That’s not the question.

The question should be what choice does Harris have, except to stop Israel?

If (as I strongly agree) trump is the worst human on the planet who will cause irreparable damage to :gestures wildly: fucking everything, then why doesn’t his opponent have the responsibility to do whatever the hell it takes, within the law to keep him out of power?

Especially as in this instance his opponent is currently sworn to be responsible for the ongoing welfare of the nation.

Imagine being so fucking intent on enabling genocide half a planet away that you’d rather let your own country fall into the hands of Camacho Harkonnen rather than attract progressive voters.

Why is it always ‘voters need to lower their standards’, and never ‘candidates need to be decent human beings’?

Mayonnaise-filled inflatable dolphin?

That’s a phrase I’ve not heard in a long, long time.

Have they tried fucking off?

What do you get when you cross Kim Jong Un and Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg?