ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]

excellent protection of indigenous culture

Lmao, this is like saying the US has excellent protection of indigenous culture.

Recognized or not, it is a independent political, economical, and cultural entity from China. Calling it part of China is just unhelpful burocracy.

Except for the part that they claim they are part of China, are strongly economically coupled with China, and are full of Chinese people, sure.

I’d argue you’re just describing vulgar idealist(as opposed to materialism, not cynicism) philosophy.

What I meant was that if we didn’t have it to start with, things would’ve likely still developed albeit much more slowly.

I dont think we will ever know, but Im not sure I agree. I dont know what the landscape would look like without relying on open source and patent theft. A lot of the stuff would probably not be financially viable.

I work in software development. Almost all modern architecture would collapse without the open source ecosystem.

:gulp:

I have no formal training in philosophy maybe I need to read less philosophy if philosophy undergrads aren’t being exposed to it

suppose you could make an argument that a non-communist dialectical materialist is also a Marxist

That’s my argument

though I’ve never seen it used that way in practice.

Sometimes capitalists spout marxist shit and it is recorded. Marxist capitalists are the worst because they have an understanding of the contradictions their counterparts dont. More commonly there are non communist Marxists in philosophy.

I agree that almost all Marxists are communists, I just felt your initial response was a simplification that lost more meaning in the simplification than it necessarily needed to.

No, marxism is a lense through which to analyze capitalism. It isnt communist by itself, although marx was a communist.

Also without open source the capitalist tech sector would collapse

Lol they cited articles from AP proving you wrong in the modlog

You literally said this

Or call me when Russians start kidnapping children like the Americans did in…oh wait that’s unique to Russia

And cried whataboutism when they pointed out you were wrong by bringing up what Americans did.

1 and 3 are pretty directly political lol

Cuba and Russia, both which exist as they exist because of US meddling. The US was directly responsible for the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR without which this war wouldn’t be happening. The US is directly responsible for cuban economic desperation as they’ve been sieging Cuba ever since the communists overthrew the US puppet dictator and installed a socialist democracy.

Cw: pedophilia, rape

Or call me when Russians start kidnapping children like the Americans did in…oh wait that’s unique to Russia

If you plug your ears and say “lalala” you can ignore the mass kidnapping of vietnamese and cuban children. As well as refugee children that is still ongoing and is connected to pedophile rings.

How about when America stops using rape as a tactic in war…oh shit they did that a century ago

They literally are still raping US female soldiers at ridiculous rates. What do you think they do to women they’ve been trained to dehumanize?

folks, this is the nerd who claims fascist states are freer than socialist states

The DPRK is the least free society on earth right now if you consider that to be socialist

Let me guess, you get your propaganda about them from the country that killed 20 percent of Koreans so that it could keep its fascist puppet dictatorship going, or from its allies.

Hungary, which has fascists in the highest office, is freer than DPRK

It is funny how ignorant you are on what fascism is while claiming I’m ignorant. Have you actually researched how fascism is distinct from liberal democracy? Because liberal democracies with fascists in office can exist without becoming fascist. Fascism is primarily a switch in the primary way of increasing profits changing from abstract surplus labor extraction to concrete surplus labor extraction. If you dont understand what that means, literally learn basic economics.

Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge was quite possibly the least free society in history if you consider them socialist.

Let me guess, you consider the nazis to be socialist too huh? Honeslt this reeks of not knowing your history and falling for the “nationalist socialist” label. If you have a 101 knowledge of their history it is obvious that they weren’t socialist.

Keep crying your tears child because you clearly cannot argue from a position of knowledge.

Tankies that take socialism as a religion are the WORST.

People who take anticommunism as a religion to the point where they endorse fascism as an alternative are the worse. Consider:

Okay, but have you considered, in response to your claim that fascist governments are freer:

Alternatively, a source that should meet with your standards: link

You can’t choose your government, your top executive

You have more say in your government because the bourgeois media apparatus doesn’t manufacture support for their favorite candidates. All candidates get the same amount of advertising… You also cannot choose your top executive in the US, where the executive holds much more power.

nor can you suggest changing what kind of Marxist state you want to achieve.

Source? They’ve agreed that they’re some kind of socialist, Marxists in a political context are all socialists.

Cuba’s constitution wasn’t created by direcy democracy. Direct democracy would mean ALL Cuban citizens would be part of creating the constitution.

Look into how it was made. Everyone was given the opportunity to contribute.

Being able to vote doesn’t make a state democratic when they can fix the vote like Cuba can.

Again, you still haven’t provided any evidence that they fix votes, and you can’t, because international election observers have looked at their election process and haven’t found any evidence that they fix votes. Not letting fascists run isnt “fixing the vote” it is a democratically agreed upon overton window.

Even IF the USA went fascist it would still be freer than almost all socialist nations

The US literally has 100, 000 people in concentration camps and has the largest gross and by capita prison population in the world, which is often used for slave labor. US cops extrajudicially execute 1000 people a year on the conservative side. The US supported apartheid while Cuba sent soldiers to fight against the apartheid government, but yeah, Cuba is the unfree place.

because the kinds of people attracted to socialism aren’t interested in any opposing views or critiques as you are proving right now.

“You’re not agreeing with my misinformed and ignorant takes which proves how close minded you are”

Record scratch, let’s rewind to something

Even IF the USA went fascist it would still be freer than almost all socialist nations

Okay, but have you considered:

What makes it authoritarian is the fact that you cannot change the structure of government from socialism to a different system if that is what the masses want. Authoritarian states are labeled such due to the structure of their systems.

They could pass a constitution that doesn’t say the socialism is an integral part of cuban justice. They just didn’t.

Did it occur to you that there is a very important reason for this, connected to why Cuba is more free than your country?

As an aside you are using a lot if words that you very clearly do not know the meaning of. You can fix that.

Are you upset by me describing a constitution made from the grassroots and passed by a vote among the entire population as direct democracy? Because Cuba is a mixture of representative and direct democracy but in this case it was entirely direct democracy.

So people can directly vote in that portion and that makes the system authoritarian?

What if they voted “you cannot advocate for exterminating x minority” would that also make it authoritarian?

It seems to me you’re pointing at direct democracy and screaming authoritarian because it doesn’t align with what you would have voted for.

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Cuba_2019

Cite the excerpts that support your claims.

You’ve cited literally none of this. Just anticommunist make shit up hours.