I refuse to look mine up because I am just not ready to be that angry today.

Not in the slightest. I’ll happily talk dicks with you all day; I’m extremely sexually liberal.

But talking about dicks isn’t the same as listening to a bunch of chud weirdos whining and crying about the world’s least consequential issue that’s they’re only mad about because deep down they ignorantly think their tiny dicks would be bigger if they hadn’t had their foreskins stolen.

Again, it’s just a weird fucking thing to focus on. Bring it up when the topic comes up, of course, but to fucking insert it in conversations as if it’s relevant, as was done in this post, will always be weird.

But hey, if you wanna talk about dicks for fun, I’m game. Mine curves slightly to the left, how about you?

I think we’d have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.

My guy, please be for fucking real right now. There is a difference between an unfounded claim and an outlandish one. If I said “all of the smartest people on earth believe Poland borders Peru,” we wouldn’t need a study or poll to confirm I was full of shit, we could just reasonably deduce it. Likewise we don’t need a survey to tell us that any man who genuinely tried to bring up circumcision as tantamount in the abortion conversation would be rightly laughed out of serious consideration.

Again, I acknowledge you aren’t wrong and I will acknowledge both abortion and circumcision exist under the same very broad umbrella of bodily autonomy, but frankly the scale and scope of the two are so wildly and enormously different as to instantly render any attempts at comparison moot.

And honestly, I really think that you know this too. I truly believe that if you can divorce yourself from your personal investment in this topic, you will also see what an absurd comparison that is.

To the first point, I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.

To the second point, it has come up a few times, but yes, the reason I said “leave this on reddit” was preemptive, before the problem migrates here from reddit where the topic is rampant is insanely zealous most often.

It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme that just makes spaces like this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.

Like I said, you’re not wrong on the topic, it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.

Whoa hold the fucking phone here - are you seriously telling me the guy running around town in the “I’m a Russian Asset” shirt might be a Russian asset???

God can we please leave this weird obsession with circumcision on reddit? You’re not wrong, it’s just such a weird thing to focus on all the goddamn time.

Modders make mods for free. Video creators publish free videos on sites like Youtube or Vimeo today without any revenue stream. Prior to that creators published their content for free on sites like ebaums, or albinoblacksheep, or on personal pages.

Humans want to share. If Youtube had never existed, people wouldn’t have suddenly stopped making videos to share, they should have just found another method of sharing or created their own alternative. The desire to create and share is innate to humanity; the concept of monetary compensation is not.

As for wanting everything to be free (I’m not who you were talking to but I’m responding anyway)… I mean, yeah kind of? Here’s my question: why should everything be paid? I think that’s a backwards mentality. People were sharing stories and art and other creations for no reason other than the love of sharing long before Youtube, and they will keep doing so after. Imo not every effort in life needs to be directly compensated. To me this is the same reason I will never pay for game mod: I want to support and encourage a modding community who mods because they love do it and they love sharing with community, not because they see a possible revenue stream.

Imo turning your hobbies into jobs or “side hustles” is one of the worst consequences of capitalism, and one we should push back against.

Every person is already paying for Youtube with their data. The ads are asking above and beyond.

It would be an entirely different story if Google wasn’t primarily first a data-mining company, but since they are, and since selling that data (or the results of using that data) in of the MAIN revenue streams for their business, it is disingenuous to act like Youtube is some free service that is being offered to us. It’s not; it’s a massive data-mining operation of incredible value as it offers not just demographic information but vastly more details on individual interests and what kind of things they are likely to actually click and interact with than the vast majority of other platforms and sites.

We have got to stop ignoring the data aspect of businesses like Youtube.

You have already been paying Google for that 6+ hours before even a penny came out of your account - you’re just been paying in data. We have to stop pretending Google is some good guy that left an open platform in the world and just said “if you use it we’ll show you some ads.”

Ads aren’t even the main revenue stream for Youtube, data is. All of these points about “paying for a service” become moot the moment we acknowledge the value of the data Google is farming from our interactions. This is how we’re paying for Youtube. If you choose to buy Youtube Premium, understand that you’re paying to not have ad interruption. You aren’t paying for Youtube, because that was already happening, you’re just paying for the convenience of avoid ads.

Don’t be disingenuous. We are already paying for that service, in our data and attention.

It would be an entirely different story if paying for Youtube Premium immediately opted you out of participating in Google’s data-mining and data-selling, and if paying for Youtube Premium removed not just the overt ads but the algorithmically-manipulated advertising content as well (what is the effective difference between a Pepsi ad and a Good Mythical Morning video titled “trying every new Pepsi flavor”?), but it since it DOESN’T do those then we aren’t talking about paying for a service - we are talking about a company asking for every penny in our wallet for a service which we are already paying for.

Imo this should actually be illegal. I’m find with reasonable promotional displays and offers, but there needs to be some legal option to permanently decline. Having to tell YouTube “no” literally hundreds of times is legitimately ludicrous

I love this so fucking much. Eccentric people are the best.

Also somebody please invite this old dude to play D&D

How exactly does blocking them amplify their voice, especially when loudly calling for others to do the same?

Guys please stop arguing with this disingenuous accelerationist. They clearly give zero fucks about actually making the world better or improving conditions for real people, they’re just here to cosplay revolutionary and support the conservative status quo.

Don’t engage with them, just block them.

Hey now that’s not fair; Tulsi will sell herself to anyone willing to pay, not just exclusively Russia!

I understand what you’re saying and I want to sympathize, but I feel like we’re so far outside the norm here that some of this falls a bit flat to me. Like we aren’t talking about being swayed by a wolf in sheep’s clothing here, Trump is a an entire pack of wolves loudly shouting “the wolves have arrived, fuck all you sheep!”

I think there was a point what you say rang true, but I can’t help but feel like we’re so off-course at this point that if you haven’t seen Trump for what he is yet it must be because you are WILLFULLY evading that reality.
I find it genuinely difficult to believe that anyone touting the “both sides are the same narrative” still, today, about Trump, can possibly truly believe that. I genuinely think you are only hearing from the mouths of charlatans, foreign agents, intentional accelerationists, and the absolute most genuinely ignorant of people. Maybe I’m jaded, but the alternative is legitimately incomprehensible to me at this point.

Even when you aren’t seeing ads their algorithm is still controlling your front page, allowing them to push partner content that isn’t directly advertising but still acts like it. The differences between a commercial for Doritos and an episode of Good Mythical Morning titled “Trying Every Doritos Flavor” from the perspective of the PepsiCo marketing department are that people might willingly click on the GMM video and they probably didn’t even have to pay anyone for the video to happen.
Sure Rhett & Link may not have a partnership with Pepsi and are just innocently making content to give their audience (I genuinely believe this), so they’ve got no part in this becoming advertising, but you would have to be incredibly naïve to believe that Google’s algorithm isn’t smart enough to recognize that video and others like it as marketable content the promotion of which can be sold to PepsiCo.

Premium subscribers may not be seeing ads, but they are absolutely still seeing advertising.

edit: typos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_toilet

The most effective science fiction is that which is only an arm’s reach away from current fact.

Oh god, imagine midroll ads on Pornhub… “Oh yeah baby, lick that wet- [Overly loud and obnoxious Adam & Eve ad starts playing]”