I mean have you heard an Australian accent? It’s like “this is totally a legit accent, we’re speaking English, mate, jabbamawong!” half of it isn’t even words they just make it up as they go like they’re not being sarcastic.

Never bought it.

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Not really commenting on whether Altman got paid enough or not, but “well he’s not fucking homeless” isn’t really a sensible argument in any conversation about compensation.

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You can talk circles around justifying this idiocy, it’s not going to make this clout chasing vandalism stunt any more clever. If justifying some kind of funding is what you want to talk about you’re free to do so, funding has never been something that stops art from existing, but that discussion is absolutely irrelevant to this thing. Besides, “the arts are one of the first things to go” isn’t talking about this one piece, it’s very general and you know it.

Yeah, because art clearly hasn’t existed when there’s strife, crises or people are poor or suffering :D

There is a massive difference between critique and telling people not to do anything. You enjoy that strawman as well. Jesus.

Making things worse is not a thing to be commended just for the effort, real life isn’t kindergarten, you don’t get a participation trophy. The road to hell is paved is good intentions and useful idiots do more harm than good.

Because wiping your ass on the entire movement is so much better than actually, really doing something! Have fun feeling high and mighty without doing anything useful.

Have fun beating that strawman…

Only extreme things make it into the media (sadly). Anything short of blowing up the pipeline won’t get them media attention.

I’m really not arguing against the obvious futility of fighting against these giants, but I mean, we’re here literally talking about people vandalizing paintings which honestly has absolutely fucking nothing to do with the oil industry and it’s hailed as some big statement. It’s a sad reality we live in, but things like this aren’t making anything better.

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There are no parallels you can seriously draw from this shit to the suffragette movement.

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Only thing this shit made me think about is how the fight against climate and environmental change is doomed because most people are mentally challenged. And like with the tomato soup protest, that’s what most people are going to get out of this. Great, you made the entire fight look like Don Quijote! Good job!

Great job comprehending what you’re reading.

It’s a million times more depressing that the majority of environmentalist-minded people apparently see these publicity stunts as positive.

Exactly, I don’t understand how this is such a controversial take apparently.

Art isn’t only that though and if that’s the point it’s going to go unnoticed and unrealized by most people rendering any symbolism or point moot. A circlejerk where people pat themselves on the back on the oh-so-deep symbolism and historical callbacks is not going to change anything but the brunches of some pretentious assholes who think they’re saving the world when they’re actually doing more harm than good.

This is more like protesting the fur industry by releasing the caged, tortured animals into the wild to wreak more havoc as an invasive species to the enviroment and ecosystem they’re released into, but at least people can cheers themselves for making a difference.

I’m not arguing for the value of the paintings but the idiocy of the protest. If it worked for the suffragettes (where it is even fathom able that it might have some relevance to the protest, unlike here) good for them, but this is nothing like that. This just paints them as idiots and does very little less. A common tactic used by the whatever shitty thing that’s supposedly being protested is to make fools of the protesting party. Even though this is apparently just idiots making everybody in the movement look bad. Yay. Lotta good that does…

If these idiotic stunts aren’t a smear campaign, these morons are doing their work for them.

Aren’t these the same idiots who threw food at the paintilngs and people defended them with “well the paintings are covered with protective glass either way so they’re not doing any harm, just publicity for a good cause”? Like I’m all for protesting and especially old fashioned ways that do more harm than good, but these people are just assholes trying to destroy invaluable art which is never going to do anything positive for their cause and on top of it all is literally so misguided. No oil company or production or anything is gonna give a fuck about some old painting and this only gives assholes ammo to paint these kinds of movements unhinged. It’s like they’re paid actors to make it look bad.