Well, I’ll just add that even if this is true it will sway nobody.

Trump is a rapist caught on tape bragging about how easy it is to assault women. Very few Trump supporters are unaware of this fact and yet that are still Trump supporters.

That he’s assaulted women simply isn’t newsworthy for his fascist followers. He’s hurting the right people and that’s all that matters to them.

Sadly, about the only thing he could do to lose support would be to insult his followers or the USA. They’ll forgive him for pretty much anything else, including rape and murder.

Exactly this. The point was to cast doubt on the election process.

The real problem with the filibuster, in my opinion, is it shields senators from taking a public position. The most extreme senator from Idaho can filibuster the “feed the children” act which prevents a senator from Georgia from having to vote no.

Project 2025. But when only the Nazi freaks liked it the Republicans have had to backtrack and pretend like that was never the plan.

The UN statistics on deaths in Gaza have not been updated in months. Do you know why? Because israel has killed everyone that can count the dead and israel is not counting the dead.

Israel does not have numbers on how many people they’ve killed because they frankly do not care.

To sum up the reports here. Hamas is in the west bank, ACCORDING TO THE IDF.

And if you read any of the articles you actually posted, you know that there are a lot of problems with just verifying what the IDF claims as true. For example, Wissam Khazem’s death where the IDF quickly hid the body and hasn’t allowed any 3rd party verification.

Or the fact that in the very same article about Wissam Khazem’s death, it goes on to talk about how snipers killed elderly and disabled people in the region.

You see, Israel likes to play this neat trick where every person they kill is suddenly hamas. So, excuse me for not believing israelie intelligence sources when we have crystal clear evidence of them massacring civilians.

But again, are you going to answer my question. How many hostages are in the west bank?

I once saw a hamas at a wendy’s. I was so ascared that the hamas was going to get me. Then the hamas just told me to stop starring at them. When I ever so politely yelled at them for hamasing around me, they just kept saying “Fuck off, I’m Mexican”, which I think is a new hamas antisemitic slur.

You did not answer my questions.

But I’ll answer yours. Hamas is not in the west bank you dolt. There is no “pretending” about it. You actually have to be mentally ill to think that somehow “Hamas” has spread out of one of the most heavily guarded regions through Israel and into the next most heavily guarded regions, the west bank.

I guess if you’ve now taken israel’s definition of “hamas” which is all arabs, then yeah, hamas is literally everywhere in the region.

Now, explain why fighting “hamas” involves desecrating bodies and bulldozing homes? How is that counter terrorism? Oh wait, you don’t think arabs are human so I guess that makes it ok, right?

Cool… and how many hostages are in the west bank? What did the west bank do to justify this invasion? Yeah…

You’ll stick with the theory an innocent death is for the the greater good until it’s your innocent death.

I never said the death was for good. Nor have I said that it’d be immoral for a doctor to break the law. The death is because of a horrible legal reality and a doctor that complies with the law isn’t some sort of monster. There are justifications for that decision, but you won’t respect them. I am not some moral absolutist like you appear to be. Things can be murky.

You could make the same argument that someone without insurance or means should be denied access because the hospital needs only paying customers to stay in business.

I could, but I’m not making that argument. In fact, I argue strongly that the entire healthcare industry should be nationalized and paid by taxes. Just because that’s my desired outcome doesn’t mean that I turn around and shame doctors and nurses for working for more than minimum wage. Which is effectively what you are saying “These doctors are making healthcare expensive for all because of their salaries. They should work for free!”

In the exact same vein, I argue that abortion should be legal and highly available. But that’s not the environment I or doctors find themselves in. So, sorry, I’m not going to fault doctors for not playing hero.

Secondly, you seem to suggest that an innocent death is for the greater good. Sure you want to stick with that?

I’m suggesting that we have a real life trolley problem. Save a pregnant person’s life, remove yourself from being able to save the life of someone that has a heart attack, stroke, or any other list of life threatening diseases.

Yes, I want to stick with that because that is very much the situation these doctors and hospital systems find themselves in.

And, to be real clear, many of these doctors are leaving the red states to get out of this situation. And I don’t blame them for doing that.

And how many other patients end up dying because there are no doctors staffing the ER? What happens to a community if the state government shuts down a hospital because of repeated violations of their abortion law?

That’s why your blame make no sense. While I’d certainly congratulate any doctor brave enough to be arrested over the law, I understand completely why they don’t and would not expect any doctor to.

A doctor or hospital gets to make the choice to save the life once. Once they make that call, it’s jail time, loss of license, and financial ruin.

What doctors are doing is leaving the states with these laws. In my state, hospitals are closing down their OBGYN units because they simply can’t find doctors that will work there.

Like, I’m sorry, I don’t expect someone to destroy their lives and family lives for a patient. Further, the jail time also hurts patients they can help with non-abortion related medical issues. These doctors taking principled stances will not impact the law makers or their constituents who pushed for the laws. The rabid anti-abortion terrorists literally celebrate the murders of doctors that have performed abortions.

This is a welcome change to biden’s approach of weakly talking about how abortion is a necessary evil.

That, or he’s antisemitic.

Yeah, but Christian nut jobs will freak out about the mark of the beast or whatever shit.

Here’s the thing, Vance didn’t make up the story, a Nazi did. I’m guessing Vance is now claiming responsibility because lying about the origin is better than the truth, that he’s just repeating lies from self avowed Nazis.

Ohio could possibly sue him civilly because of the bomb threats that caused them to shut down schools. That’s the best I got.

If anyone is hurt over this, then they likely have standing for a civil suit (see Alex Jones).

Criminal it’s definitely more tricky. Trump will likely get away with telling his followers to storm the capitol, so I doubt “eating cats and dogs” comes close to the same standard.

Once upon a time, admitting to something like this would have been an impeachable offense. But that’s long sailed as something Congress would fairly enforce.

Conspiracy bullshit and racism.

Conservative debate has basically devolved into “But, can you tell me what a woman is?”. Trump could have a team of the best conservative debaters in his ear and he’d do just about as well.

Also doesn’t help that he doesn’t listen to jack shit so he’d likely rip out the headphone for being annoying.