I deleted my 11yr high karma account on 1st July. I had another before that which was a couple of years or so old.

I did it in protest but as an interesting side effect, my mental health has improved slightly. Guess actively engaging with toxicity does have an effect.

As someone who was working in IT support at the time - YAY! NO MORE FUCKING TRUMPET WINSOCK!

Exactly. It exposes the bias in the headline wording designed to trigger a reaction because this is Amazon, but companies move all the time, and a percentage of the workforce will always prefer not uprooting themselves, no matter how good or bad their employer.

“independent” - Is it though?

Redhat are the major sponsors of Fedora, much as they sponsored Centos before taking it over and killing it in classic “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”.

I have doubts about the future of the entire EL ecosphere - I know not many enterprise level organisations are investing deeply into it right now, whether that’s with RHEL or a rebuild. Too much doubt about Redhat’s intentions with RHEL and the future of it.

Have you checked syslog and apts logs?

Also, simply uninstalling and reinstalling Firefox shouldn’t lose all your settings. Silly question, but are you sure you’re the same local user? Also, Firefox syncs this stuff so all sounds odd.

Can’t we have a new game instead please?

Might be worth waiting for some news outlets you’ve actually heard of to start carrying the story before you break out the balloons.

This feels like a cynical ploy for funding, like almost every “miracle battery” story carried over the past ten years.

That’s a surprisingly well written article.

You make it sound like there’s a plan involved.

That’s a whole lot of “fuck spez”. Well done, strangers.

What actually red hat wants?

All the control and all of the money.

Besides that, I suspect they have no clear vision. And if they do, they are absolutely terrible at communicating that.

Agree on point of detail, but the “drama” is the reason for the fuss. Redhat’s communication, especially to the community that helped build and support it, has always been patchy, but over the past few years it’s been apalling. As others have pointed out, they’ve insulted a lot of us, specifically for not contributing upstream - so it’s not unexpected for them to be called on it when someone does.

I think the EL sphere as a whole (including RHEL and all up and downstreams) is getting drastically weakened directly because of Redhat’s poor decision making, and that’s a shame for all of us.

As a UK citizen, I totally support this. The more that the average voter is disconvenienced because of proposed law changes like this and the (unenforcable) anti-porn laws, the more likely they are to actually pressure their MP or change how they vote.

Your headline is sensationalist and inaccurate, and your description has only partial truths. You need to appreciate some history to understand that Rocky is not for profit and why. This isn’t anti-Alma, which was founded and is supported by Cloudlinux - a commercial company by the way - because that’s not actually important either.

Rocky Linux is owned by RESF which is owned by Greg Kurtzner, backed by a board of trustees. Greg, together with Jason “Rocky” McGaugh, created CentOS Linux back in 2004. Since then, Redhat “Embraced, extended and then extinguished” CentOS Linux through gaining legal ownership of the project and its name, and control of its board of trustees.

When Redhat (through control of CentOs’ board) finally pulled the rug (with very little notice) on CentOS 8 in 2020, Greg figured he could correct the organisational mistakes made with CentOs that allowed Redhat to kill it. He talks about that here In honour of Jason, who has since died, he named the new distro Rocky.

Rocky must be owned by a legal entity, and they chose a PBC - the reasoning is described very clearly on Rocky’s website here and it’s made clear that it is not for profit. It’s possibly that might change, sure, but somewhere along the line you have to look at the bigger picture and decide to trust a distro. I trust Rocky. I also trust Debian and OpenSuse. And, because they’ve also proved themselves honest and transparent ** despite being founded and sponsored by a commercial company** , I trust Alma. All are good choices. The beautiful part about all these good, open and free distributions is you can choose which you want to use, that you’re not locked into them and whether you want to contribute or not.

There /is/ a link to CiQ with Rocky via Greg, and CiQ is commercial, but Rocky itself is not, is definitely NOT for profit, and there’s no need to pay CiQ a bean if you don’t want to.

Anyone can pick holes in any distribution. They can take any part of the legal structure and present it to suit their own agenda, or misunderstand the whole.

I think that was the intention, but the reality is put all of the EL ecosphere at risk. I certainly wouldn’t be investing in RHEL and partnering with a company that makes such unpredictable actions.

I suspect the reality is that tomorrow will look much like today, however.

They probably still have it. I did a gdpr request then overwrote and deleted all my posts. Then deleted my 11 year account. A couple of weeks later I got the request contents, which contained every post, every comment and every DM I ever made. Reddit does not delete when it’s supposed to.

They still have it. I did a gdpr request then overwrote and deleted all my posts. Then deletedy 11 year account. A couple of weeks later I got the request contents, which contained every post, every comment and every DM. Reddit dies not delete when it’s supposed to.

Trump style dead catism?

Keep doing crazy things so people stop talking about your last crazy thing?

Not quite but it’s not black and white. Rocky is owned by Rocky Enterprise Software Foundation, but that is owned by Greg Kurtzner because a legal entity needs to be owned by /someone/ in law.

I personally trust him because I know a little of his story and his involvement with Centos before Rocky (ie, he cofounded it), but I appreciate that might not be enough for everyone. I’ve followed the project closely since its inception and am very happy with its progress and outlook so far, solely from a non-commercial aspect.

And Alma is NOT better. That’s like saying Cheese is better than Apples, or Titanium’s better than Lead. They’re different distros with quite different approaches. It’s fantastic both of them entered this market and both of them are doing well, choice is the absolute best thing about Foss.

(More detail about Rocky’s legal makeup here, if you’re interested) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Linux - I also have no commercial interest in it other than a user)

Yes, I’ve populated most of my local area, and every time I go for a walk or bike ride, I add as much detail that I can. I also find it very enjoyable and it’s pretty cool to see features I added show up in all kinds of mapping services that use its data

Osm now has the clearest and most detailed maps for walking that I know, and I use them in preference to the UK’s ordnance survey maps, which don’t scale so well on electronic devices.