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  • I'm not saying he'd let it happen, but this is one scenario where the constitution is perfectly clear and it's within the states' authority. They could even ignore the SCOTUS if they wanted, though I think even the SCOTUS would struggle to justify stopping an election.

  • Meh, just hold one without him. Get an electoral college quorum and move the new guy in because it's 100% state driven and he can't change the constitution. Like an old time papacy schism, let God sort it out.

  • If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.

    -Jorjor Well

  • If you can't fill in: "don't support X or Y but ___" then why make a comment tearing down any particular candidate? You're clearly not interested in what's possible in our current, real-life political environment.

    If you're positive it's impossible to get anyone decent elected then go set something on fire or some shit. I'm not judging any radical position but we're talking about ballot boxes here.

  • This looks like when you see a weird, unflattering picture of a celebrity. Earth just woke up and hasn't put its makeup on and you put it on blast like this

  • What are you on about? There is no progressive wing. The center doesn't need the left to get anything done, as evidenced by the last 50+ years. All they need is the permission of the right.

    Again, you're complaining that there's no space for your platform but that has nothing to do with centrists secretly favoring the right. In the USA (and most 21st century democracies, to some extent) we have a rigged spectrum with only Center, Center-Right and Hard Right.

    If you want to play the political game as it stands then you're submitting yourself to the Center. It's not back stabbing, you just have no political weight to merit anything but lip service. Gaining the clout to influence policy isn't going to come from the good will of the Centrists, it has to be built independently.

    It's arguably an insurmountable task but it starts by making policy that appeals to voters across the current spectrum. That means a hard focus on economic solutions for the wage-earning class. Look at the success of Bernie, AOC and Mamdani, their focus is generally-to-exclusively economic. Once you build that Center-Left you sap some life from the right and can build from there.

    Of course, all of this is going against coordinated establishment attacks. You can see those headliners getting it from all media outlets, but as long as they stay on message they have success. Attacking them for not being progressive enough is silly when they're actively pushing the limits of what the system allows. That is the essence of the "purity test".

  • Uh... Why would they? Progressive policies are on the far end of the left spectrum by definition. If they had the political weight to carry the party then they would no longer be progressive.

    What you're actually complaining about is the window of modern politics being dragged so far to the right, which is due to external factors and separate from any party loyalty concerns.

  • It's a new label but it's not a new concept at all. Factional bickering that weakens a broadly appealing platform has been happening since we invented partisan politics. Just on the left, look at the French Revolution and the socialist splintering in the early 20th century.

    It's not a thought terminating cliche either, it's a real and tangible problem. The rise of the internet has made targeting and widening these fractures easy and effective. Any bad actor can trivially propogate a message to any number of people, making them naturally coalesce into opposing echo chambers. This chart may as well track social media use during election years.

    It's true that "purity testing" is often used as a bludgeon to stifle criticism of obviously regressive policies, but it's unfair to completely ignore the kernel of truth about the opposite end of the spectrum. When a bloc of voices is lodging criticisms with no constructive platform, there's no value being added and they may as well be opposition.

    It's often not that hard to tell when that line is crossed either. If your claim is candidate X is vile but you have no real option Y as a substitute, then your attack can only be strengthing the opposition. There is a political reality you have to operate in; the system of election and popular opinion automatically limit your options. Being vehemently opposed to a subset of policies does not mean supporting that candidate is automatically the wrong political play.

    If you're truly a bright-eyed idealist and can't stomach the political sausage making then you'll have to find another approach. If you want to use the system in place (for example, USA's FPTP and electoral college) then you have to put in a ton of work and political maneuvering. If you don't believe in the reformist approach then you have no skin in the game and shouldn't be complaining.

  • But it's not possible to get unbiased content on the internet. Everything exists with an agenda behind it, for the sole reason that hosting anything is going to constantly cost money.

    This wasn't a huge deal when individuals were paying to host and share content to a small audience, it was a small amount of money and you could see their motives clearly (a forum for a hobby, a passion project, an online store, etc...).

    Social media is different because it presents itself as a public forum where anything can be shared and hosted (for free) to as many people as you want. But they're still footing a very large bill and the wide net of content makes their motives completely opaque. Nobody cares that much about the headaches of maintaining a free and open public forum, and any profit motive is just another way to sell manipulation.

  • You're right about keeping an eye on sampling but you don't know much about stats if you think 600+ respondents isn't enough to draw any conclusions.

  • Room temp IQ take.

    It's true that civilization is inherently brittle but those ebbs and flows logically come from things outside of human control. Eg. natural disasters, crop failures, spikes in population pressure, etc...

    In no sane universe does a society (producing 10x it's true resource demand) rubber band on the brink of destruction just because a few rich fucks need to make their high score bigger. The whole gambit of civilization is sacrificing individual flexibility for group stability, an economic system that misses that mark is antithetical.

  • So what I'm hearing is if you want to commit a violent crime just wear a hard hat/hi-vis vest and say you're going to hammer things at work? Or put on a funny chef hat and walk around freely with your knives? Seems like the regulation only exists as fig leaf for minority profiling and harassing young people.

  • American SS => ASS?

  • You have no clue what I'm doing, and I couldn't be making your argument because you don't have an argument. You're just lobbing complaints at a strawman 'Murican with no basis in reality.

    I didn't say 300 because some people did vote for him and are genuinely locked in their isolation bubble. If you think well over 50% of the population doesn't count as a crippling general strike, I don't know what to tell you.

    And having the gall to compare a few hundred people showing up to protest a golf outing to organizing a seismic political shift in a massive country is absurd. It's the pinnacle of throwing stones in glass houses while the UK meekly accepts digital privacy surveillance and suppression of political speech on Gaza. Where's your fucking critique of that???

    Apparently just laying out the facts of life in America is making an excuse. Nowhere did I say we should lay down and take it, but you armchair political activists aren't happy unless you see headlines about car bombs or some shit. God forbid you adjust yourself to the context of reality, just shout loudmouth transatlantic complaints. The lack of self-awareness is incredible, you've become your own despised Fox News caricature.

    "People aren't calling you names", no it's way worse than that. They're trying to direct how I should act in my own country about matters that, at best, only tangentially concern them. That's why you should keep your mouth shut. Worry about how your own damn government is reacting to tariffs and NATO balancing and not how I need to fix my political nightmare for your personal peace of mind.

  • When it comes to collective, coordinated, public opposition to a government: 1% is noteworthy, 3% is a crisis, more is a revolution.

    The rest of your comment is glorified hot air.

    "Why not organize a simple general strike" actually laughing out loud at that one.

    200 million+ people, in a country with many laws specifically designed to curtail general striking, with no trusted access to each other, dispersed over thousands of miles, with all social support networks carefully dismantled over decades, with most of them living paycheck to paycheck and 0 social saftey net...

    Should just nod at each other and agree not to work tomorrow. Clearly a lack of moral fiber in those bloody Yanks 🧐

    If you really think your opinions hold any water on a wildly different country halfway across the globe, just keep your mouth shut. Unless you want to keep making a fool of yourself I guess.

  • Let's do per capita then:

    "hundreds of protesters" (we'll round up to 1000) of 5.5 million => 0.018%

    5 million of 347 million => 1.4%

    I assume the original comment was a joke but glad you to get to feel so high and mighty about it.

  • The problem isn't the lack of attempts, it's that attempts are hyper focused on narrow avenues of change. People are either all in on the rigged game or highly improbable home runs.

    Forcing change strictly through grinding election cycles is as absurd as opt-out accelerationism and magic-wand general strikes. In reality, political action in 2025 requires more legwork on all fronts than ever before.

    It does require harm reduction voting, but it also requires building up the social structures that have been lost (or sabotaged) in the last 100+ years. You need to form a union, join a mutual aid network, organize protests and boycotts and every other coordinated action of all shades of legality.

    Obviously it's more than any one person can do alone, but every person making those connections makes the social web stronger and easier to build on for the next. The first step that 90% of people on here need to do is step away from the digital echo chamber and spend more time in real political world.