It’s always the same disingenuous bullshit. I’d wager most people on here couldn’t care less about Hamas. All Hamas members could drop dead right now and I wouldn’t lose a second of sleep.
But somehow we’re all Hamas supporters because we don’t put a “I hate Hamas”-disclaimer above every comment about Israel. It’s so terribly low-effort and transparent.
Thank you. I downloaded the book!
Also: the last update on the site. R.i.p.
I hadn’t really thought about the link to education much. I kind of figured that democrats just have more… deal breakers than republicans, mostly due to empathy (which… I don’t think it’s linked to education?). If you don’t like hurting people, if you care about other people (and not just the ones you know), then there will obviously be a lot of things you won’t accept.
But caring about the truth and reality and science is important, so I guess you do have a point.
Probably nothing. Even if you were rich enough to send a few trucks with food/medicine, it wouldn’t gain entry. And all world governments are sitting around watching it, so not sure what ordinary citizens could do that would help these people in time (yes people can vote, but it won’t be in time for a lot of these people, especially not if Israel gets to keep doing whatever in the meantime).
Well, I get what you’re saying, but I’m European and while there are plenty of right-wingers here, I haven’t met any actual obvious Trumpers so far, though I’m sure plenty of them do like Trump.
Was just kinda wondering ‘out loud’ if there is an actual line somewhere and what it would be. It seems to me it’s much easier for democrats to turn against their politicians than it is for republicans.
I think it should definitely be pointed out, constantly, how much of a hypocrite and liar Trump is, just to get it (and keep it) on the record. Ignoring it would only normalize it more. And maybe some fence sitters didn’t know about it and now they do. Which is a good thing.
At the same time, however, I also believe it’s absolutely pointless, if your goal is to convince any of his followers. They already know all of this and they don’t care. They don’t love him despite the lies and hypocrisy. They love him because of it. And even if they don’t like it per se, they still won’t turn against him, because they’re accepting way worse and nothing has been a deal breaker so far.
Edit: I have often wondered what Trump would have to do for his followers to abandon him. Is there anything they wouldn’t accept?
For anyone interested: The Town That Went Feral
I still use reddit when I’m looking for very specific information, because reddit still is an amazing database of content/info. Many of my searches kinda end up on reddit that way. But I don’t post there anymore and I block all ads. So… I’m still using it but providing nothing in return. I can live with that.
I’m a big fat liar
There’s your lie?
You remind me of that MacKinnon cartoon, from years ago. Lemme see if I can find it. Ah here:
https://twitter.com/CH_Cartoon/status/1045992028839059457
Sadly again/still relevant, hm?
It’s the exact same point. You disingenuously calling it “government coercion” doesn’t change anything.
But thank you for pointing out you don’t actually care. Means I don’t have to waste more time on this. I wish you a pleasant day.
No, it’s also choosing not to let them into your building.
Nobody is coercing you to do anything when your employer doesn’t want people spreading disease in their company. Nobody is coercing anyone if e.g. hospitals refuse to hire someone who hasn’t had certain vaccinations. It has nothing to do with coercion. It has to do with the fact that actions and choices have consequences. You don’t get to willingly disregard (the safety of) everyone else and expect to be welcome everywhere.
If I choose not to shower, and stink to high heaven, some employers won’t hire me. If I choose not to wear shoes, or walk around in my underwear, I will be denied access to many places. Does this mean I am being coerced to shower and wear clothes?
Actions have consequences. It’s just that simple. You can always choose to not do x, but when it’s a requirement for y, you won’t get to do y unless you do x. And speaking of rights, what about everyone else’s rights to not have to sit/work/eat/wait next to Typhoid Mary? Or is it really your opinion that whatever someone does, their right to do whatever is more important than the rest of society? Do you think businesses should be forced to allow anyone inside no matter what? Employers are not allowed to set requirements for their employees?
Don’t worry, I’m tired of these discussions too. I’ve had them too many times over the past years. We obviously use different definitions of the word ‘optional’ and that’s fine. Let’s just leave it at that.
I never said these people don’t exist at all. I said I’ve never met one. So I guess I’m saying they’re definitely a tiny minority.
And again: employer mandates still mean it’s optional. Absolutely optional. It’s optional because it’s not forced.
You know what baffles me the most about this, though? That you’re so hell bent on defending another random poster, who still hasn’t even taken the time to clarify his own post or even respond to me. How can you be so sure that’s what he meant?
Please stop, you’re so transparent. Vaccine mandates already existed in places, which has never meant that people are physically forced to get vaccinated. Like in schools, or when you want to work in a hospital. There are mandates. Don’t want to get vaccinated? Then you don’t get to work there. You’ll never be physically forced to vaccinate.
When my employer wanted everyone to get vaccinated, that was also called a mandate. People could still not get vaccinated, it’s their choice, but then they weren’t allowed in the building. No government violence required.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_mandates_in_the_United_States#Private_mandates
There, plenty of mandates that have nothing whatsoever to do with physically being forced to get vaccinated. Just that when you choose not to, there are consequences. Actions have consequences, who knew?
If you still insist on pretending not to understand this, think of it this way: If you choose to not shower and never wear clean clothes (this is the choice you make), nobody will physically force you into a shower. But when you’re walking around smelling like weeks old sweat and garbage, your employer will definitely not let you come back to work (and this would be the consequence). Same goes for walking around like a virus dispenser.
I’ve never known anyone who wanted to physically force people to get vaccinated. I did know many people, myself included, who absolutely wanted mandates. Don’t want to get vaccinated? Sure, that’s your choice. But other people get to choose not to be around you, and this includes your employer or any store owner or transport company, etc.
Except nobody was physically forced down and vaccinated against their will. You can still choose not to be vaccinated, but choices have consequences. I’m not saying the government should arrest people for not being vaccinated, but people, institutions, companies and hospitals should definitely have the choice to not want to let those people inside.
Fuck man, I’ve been reading this exchange and you sound a bit unhinged. Some random Jewish person living half a world away has no influence whatsoever on the actions of Israel. Do note that the person you’re arguing with has already spoken out against Israel’s actions in this very thread! But there’s nothing more they can do about it. They’re just a rando online, nobody in any position in power is going to give a fuck about what they say. Or what you say. Or what I say, for that matter. Putting all this shit on their shoulders (or anyone else not in Israel - or in a position of power elsewhere) is deranged.
The only people who can change anything about it are Israelis themselves, their government or foreign governments (maybe large corporations? But why would they as long as they make money, right?) by putting pressure on Israel. Nobody else. Certainly not some poor schmuck you decided to berate on Lemmy. Get over yourself.
Didn’t DeSantis (or his lawyer anyway) define it as ‘knowing there are systemic injustices and wanting to address them’ or something like it? I found it funny when I read that. Back when I was still on reddit, there was of course a huge SelfAwarewolves post about it.