• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    regardless of the genocide(that has been going on for the last 20 election cycles), if you are undecided about the right choice in the 2024 US election, you’re ignorant, selfish or spoiled.

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      If you are democrat leader then you’ve the chance to win the votes of young, undecided voters by not funding or supporting genocide. You should know that if they vote for third parties in large numbers, then you are in great trouble. Those votes are valuable. Accept our demands and take the vote.

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        the democrats are already winning the votes of young and decided voters.

        they’re the party of personal Liberty, sustainable technology, international cooperation, climate change, minority representation, they’re doing fine on popular progressive issues.

        what are you saying is based on a false premise.

        also, third party voting is fine. it is what voting actually is supposed to be, as it is in most countries.

        you vote for the candidate that most aligns with your values.

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          If the democrats will ignore our demands and continue their support and funding of genocidal regime then they will lose this election.

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            the democrats are doing great, especially after the resounding success at the debate.

            there is plenty of counter evidence against your whining.

            The democrats have a huge following, also, importantly, this is an election.

            they could lose anyway. That’s what an election is.

            If you want to vote for a third party, go for it, that is how voting works.

            given that Harris has already pushed forward momentum on basically every major progressive policy for the past 4 years, you’d be an idiot not to vote for harris and walz if you care about people at all.

            “If the democrats will ignore our demands…”

            you draw lazy memes and have no valid arguments. it doesn’t sound like you really care about anything.

            nobody cares about your pretension.

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              You seem very happy with this democrat government. But would you start hating them if they include policy like ending support/funding of genocide?

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                that would be good also.

                It’s good you finally learned about the Palestinian genocide, but threatening to let conservatives further mangle the country when you have a progressive alternative is selfish and incredibly narrow-minded.

                stopping the US from sending weapons will not stop Israel.

                they are a third party with plenty of international support and funding that is under no obligation to listen to the US.

                The US can stop sending bombs tomorrow, they could have stopped sending bombs months ago and Israel’s military would atill be fully prepared to continue this war as long as they want to, regardless.

                you are shooting yourself and everybody around you in the foot for rhe privilege of eating night soil by voting against harris.

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                  threatening to let conservatives further mangle the country when you have a progressive alternative is selfish and incredibly narrow-minded.

                  And how exactly is not voting doing that when…

                  the democrats are already winning the votes of young and decided voters

                  Either the Democrats are comfortably winning (in which case we can vote with our conscience), or they’re not (in which case vocal opposition to genocide might encourage them to change policies to garner our vote).

                  The alternative is that nothing will get them to change policies because they’re not interested in our vote. In which case the whole “turn up and the Democrats will move left” theory is nonsense.

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                  I think supporting/funding genocide shouldn’t be democratic party policy, it would suit more on far-right. But reality is different. Even after thousands of posts, emails to representatives, cases in court, protests in campuses and rallies. Democrats are eager to support/fund a genocide.

                  Democratic party has become a far-right party.