• Zugyuk@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You can be the change you want to see. Tell them they’re being creeps, and don’t white knight

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      10 months ago

      I think in a lot of people’s books you’d be white knighting just by doing that.

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        10 months ago

        I see what you mean, but I think that the lack of follow-up, or call for attention to yourself puts it in a different category.

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        10 months ago

        The solution is for everyone else to act like school kids and treat the guy like he has a crush and make fun of him. No one likes to be told they’re sitting in a tree.

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      10 months ago

      Sorry girl, but we’re all dudes in here so you’re kind of a creep for hanging out.

      ( I know what you meant :P )

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        10 months ago

        If I still played multiplayer games, I’d just start a kick vote and leave it at that.

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    10 months ago

    Last couple times i played with a woman no one was disrespectful which surpriced me greatly.

    Tbf the Squad community is pretty cool.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t think Dota 2 is like this. At least not in NA. People just want mmr. They don’t give a shit about your gender lol

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      10 months ago

      I wanna believe things are getting better. I have had women speak in my dota games a few times recently and havent seen anything weird. Though to be fair, the average age of dota player is pretty high. so maybe this is why.

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        10 months ago

        I think this is the main reason. Without googling anything I’d say the average age of a dota 2 player is at least 19 (if not more) compared to 14-15 for other games.

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      10 months ago

      I haven’t played for a couple years but from what I remember out of thousands of hours playing I only heard a woman speak a small handful of times, it was always very surprising

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        Oh I’m not saying a female player is common, all I’m saying is that people don’t treat them poorly. I have played with a girlfriend a couple of years ago and we had zero poor interactions. There are toxic people but they are toxic towards everyone. Nothing specific to female players.

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      10 months ago

      DOTA 2 gave me a Stalker on Steam. Also a lot of inappropriate comments and insults. You also get automatically blamed more. I only play with friends now.

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      10 months ago

      Yup I’ve had the same experience with Dota 2. I can’t speak for the super low behavior score crowd, but on the high end everyone’s pretty chill.

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        10 months ago

        I’m now thinking that maybe male players should randomly use voice modulators to make it harder to assume someone’s gender

        But yeah, situation and community is a bit fucked up, and part of why I tend to only interact with my friends on-line

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    10 months ago

    I can’t believe it’s still a thing! I remember when Anita Sarkeesian was more in the news.

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    10 months ago

    It’s fun when you’re a guy who can do a convincing woman’s voice before dropping right back into a gravelly baritone.

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    So true. I’ve had to leave games/communities I absolutely love because of the male gamers that can’t act with a modicum of adult, and the majority of others won’t call them out on that behaviour.

    Props to the communities that do welcome and treat us gals as fellow gamers.

        • GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca
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          10 months ago

          I think the commonly accepted definition is the only definition there is. The term isn’t open for interpretation.

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          10 months ago

          Incel = involuntary celibate. A person (usually a male) who acts in a way and believes in things which potential romantic partners (usually females) find repulsive. For example, alt-righties, tankies, wannabe rapists, etc.

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            Do incels have to be asshole with women or the simple fact that they are in celibate again their will is enough to be an incel

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              No, those people are just a virgin?!

              Incel comes with a certain ideology. They normally believe they are some kind of sub-human, held in that position by women, beta males (men with female partners) and chads (very attractive men with female partners).

              They put a huge emphasis on being sexless, kissless, handholdless, etc. and believe all their problems and behaviour issues stem from this problem. That women won’t be their romantic and sex partners.

              From there they enter a spectrum of hatred for women. The majority of incels is probably just writing really really awful stuff about women online. But many boast how they “get back” at women in their day-to-day life. Spitting on their food as a waiter, ignoring their female classmates and talk over them in class are two examples I found online.

              Some have plans on how to murder women and some already did.

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                OK thx for the clarification. Yeah with this definition I completely agree with the original comment. Lot of people are toxic against women especially in competitive fps

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            10 months ago

            You added your view of the issue to the definition. In-cel only means involuntary celibate, and there can be many more reasons why someone is, than appearing repulsive to potential romantic partners.

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      10 months ago

      If you think women don’t watch loads of porn I have a bridge to sell you.

      Shit, Tumblr collapsed when they removed porn content and women could no longer go there to have a cheeky wank. Women get horny, same as anybody else.

      Lemmy skews male because it’s a techie-dominated subset of ex-Reddit users, and Reddit was already 65-70% male to begin with.

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        10 months ago

        The porn on Lemmy is mostly weird furry stuff and still images of nude women. Most women don’t regularly look at the kind of porn that is prevalent on Lemmy.

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      The porn part of that is irrelevant and you have either a distorted or a weird, old-fashioned view of women. A good amount of women love porn

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        Most women don’t wank over furry cartoons and still images of nude women. Eg. The majority of what’s on /all.