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    10 months ago

    Actually humans are quite capable of creating art while having never seen art in their whole life.

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      10 months ago

      Utter nonsense. Have you ever looked at the history of art? It’s all a slow incremental crawl based on previous efforts. Nothing comes from nothing.

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        10 months ago

        So you’re saying it’s impossible for humans to create art without first seeing art? That creates a problem of how to first piece of art came from.

        Also have you never drawn anything during class as a kid? Because I definitely did, my old notebooks are full of various drawings and I had no interest in art outside of boredom in class. Art comes from imagination, not nothing.

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          10 months ago

          That creates a problem of how to first piece of art came from.

          They looked at nature and crudely copied that. They didn’t start drawing Mickey Mouse on day one.

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            10 months ago

            Humans can look at landscape, people, animals or even some random bullshit, add a dash of creativity and imagination to transform that into something beautiful. Or they can skip the first part and just draw something from their imagination, like I can draw a crazy foam monster while having never seen one.

            On the other hand you can feed an AI millions of hours of public cctv footage and you will never get anything other than variations of cctv footage. AI don’t have creativity and can’t create art out of landscape, animals, people etc.

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              10 months ago

              Or they can skip the first part and just draw something from their imagination

              Which is why blind people are so amazing at drawing…

              crazy foam monster while having never seen one.

              You are recombining pattern you have seen before, “crazy”, “foam”, “monster”, those all have a certain look that your brain got trained on, you are simply remixing them. An AI can do exactly the same. The fact that there are words for those concepts should be enough to tell you that those ideas are not original.

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                10 months ago

                Actually monsters don’t exist in real life but OK, here’s a challage for you: Train an AI on images of foam and see if it can come up with an drawing of a foam monster.

                I can tell you what you are going to get though: pictures of foam. Not drawings, not art. The human brain doesn’t just remix existing input, creativity is a thing.

                Also blind painters are absolutely a thing that exists.