My ex from Norway mentioned how unusual it was that so many places and people here fly our flag (USA), so I was curious to hear what it’s like for others here on the fediverse.

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    1 year ago

    That’s because we let them have it, along with all the other symbols of hate they have. The moment the right takes a hold of something, progressives for the most part go all M.C. Hammer on it and say “we can’t touch this”. We’re literally enabling the hate we’re trying to fight by allowing it to have symbols because it empowers that hate and that’s why they don’t want the Pride flag flying next to the American flag, because it dilutes their perceived control over it.

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      1 year ago

      Flying your country’s flag soft implies that you like your country, liking your country soft implies that you support and enjoy the status quo of your country. Conservatives seek to preserve the status quo. Therefore, conservatives and supporters of the status quo will always have a greater connection to the flag than those who are marginalized in the same country.

      Patriotism and nationalism have a strong association, independent of how people opposed to nationalism feel about it. Why would we want to adopt a symbol that is even loosely associated with nationalism or suggests contentness with the status quo if we want to significantly change the status quo?

      I disagree progressives flying the flag enables the hate of the right. In fact, I feel the opposite; flying the flag normalizes nationalistic tendencies instead of making you look like an obsessed weirdo.

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        1 year ago

        Wanted to add to this, a couple other reasons why progressive-minded people wouldn’t want to fly the flag:

        There’s inherent colonial symbolism in the 13 stripes on the flag, and flying it also can be seen as a celebration of colonial conquest over native lands.

        If liberals regularly fly the flag, leaving only left-wing people who dislike the US as the only people not flying the flag, not flying the flag will actively become a political statement, placing a target on their backs, and becoming a reason to antagonize people just living their lives.