Looks like Reddit is forcing another sub open, but there are users advocating changing the sub to be about actual steam.

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      This is what I want to see from every subreddit that is forcibly reopened. The admins can try and force mods to ‘do their jobs’, but they sure as shit can’t force what can be/gets posted!

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      It’s funny, but I don’t quite get the point of this. If you are boycotting Reddit then you shouldn’t be going there to post about things. If you ARE going there, you are no longer boycotting. Reddit doesn’t care what you post about. You are still participating in the site. It’s just driving traffic back to Reddit, which harms the cause.

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      I dunno, I think just remaining closed would have worked better. This will attract additional attention to Reddit. Also, the subreddit wasn’t ‘forced’ back open, the mods just caved under a bit of pressure from the admins (which we don’t even know is true. why on earth are they asking the steam subreddit to open back up when there are so many largers subs still private?). Smells like slacktivism to me, and mods who don’t want to lose their power. Meh.

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        They sent mail to every moderator of a closed subreddit I think. I wasn’t specifically targetted. I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up, but they got the threat mail

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          I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up

          You’d think so, but didn’t the head mod get demodded?

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    but there are users advocating changing the sub to be about actual steam.

    Look at posts in the last 10 hours, they all are lol. Yay!

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    I’m not sure how they are actually anticipating this not to go negatively. If they are pushing active moderators and replacing them, that seems like a PR nightmare waiting to happen on top of all of this.

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      The people who care have left. The people who don’t care stayed and they obviously won’t give a shit. The only way they’re going to give a fuss is when the content torpedoes, which it looks like it’s already started.

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        People who are fed up need to not leave. They need to go become a mild nuisance. Give nonsense answers to people (those who need casual assistance anyway). Pollute the data without contributing anything useful. And use an ad blocker the whole time.

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          Engagement is activity which is numbers you can show for the IPO. It’s also ad revenue. Best to not engage at all honestly.

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    Next step would be moving beyond pictures of steam / John Oliver and simply jamming subreddits with worthless AI content which forced-back-but-striking mods would no longer remove; the more AI crap is there, the less useful the site is for training AI models, and the whole API scam goes out the window.

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    Honestly I think all of these subs should just spam the whole spez moderated jailbait thing and have nothing but that in the front page. Even if these subs reopen, they would ruin spez’s image even more.

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    but there are users advocating changing the sub to be about actual steam

    istg if they do that, itll be one big ass troll to the reddit mod team 💀

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    I thought spez wasn’t worried about reddit’s bottomline with these protests?
    What a weird way of showing that you’re not concerned.

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    The thing that bothers me is the number of people on the r/steam announcement commenting that the mods are doing this to hold on to power and have sold out to the admins. Speaking as someone who has previously run a community (though a much, much smaller one) there is a lot of hard work and effort that goes on behind the scenes to make sure that these kinds of internet spaces stay clean and healthy. It’s easy to say “Look at the power-tripping mods”, and yes those do exist, but to pretend that every mod is like that sells short the people who sacrifice of themselves for the betterment of the community. A lot of metaphorical and occasionally literal blood, sweat, and tears go into managing an online social space, which I can attest to. Does that excuse poor mod behavior? Never! However, we shouldn’t cut off our own nose to spite our face. I just hope that we can stop fighting ourselves and direct our collective vitriol at the real perpetrators; spez and his cronies.

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      The point is more that the writing is on the wall for that website, and should just quit moderating them and go to one of the alternatives or come here. Saying oh well and giving in to this strong arming from the admins is just making it worse for them down the line.

      It’s time to jump ship. The longer these people keep denying that, the more power they give to the admins.

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        While I appreciate that point of view, and it absolutely feels that way, I can relate to the reluctance the r/Steam mods to torching everything. They have carefully cultivated the sub like a garden, and even though the local HOA (the admins) are threatening action, the mods aren’t happy with the idea of immediately ripping out their prize-winning tulips and replacing them with cardboard cutouts just to be spiteful. I’m sure they want to try less extreme measures to salvage as much content as they can before making a riskier decision. Again, I get that things seem hopeless from the user side of things, but I know if I was in their shoes I’d be searching every avenue for a solution, even ones I wouldn’t normally consider.

  • BurningnnTree@lemmy.one
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    What does it mean to force a sub open? Did Reddit remove the mods ability to make the sub private?

    • FiendishFork@lemmy.worldOP
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      They are sending mods messages that they need to open up their subs or they will replace them with mods who will open them.