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    8 months ago

    I read the content of the transcript. A lot of leaps are being made from one diplomat’s statements. Lu simply said they don’t want to cooperate with a leader that is rubbing shoulders with Putin and it’s perfectly reasonable considering a) Pakistan is the recipient of US foreign aid b) Putin is doing his best to annex every territory around Russia that he can before anyone stops him. Whatever Pakistan did to oust him needs further proof that it is directly caused by US interference. I haven’t seen that yet.

    Edit: you know what guys; this one politicians claims and a random cable is all we need. No further proof needed. American imperialism genocide colonialism western hegemony – did I get all the poli-sci 101 buzzwords in yet or did I leave any out? Someone needs to create an ‘america bad’ phrase generator already. That is the sum of discourse on Lemmy after all.

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        8 months ago

        Honestly, we should rely on solid evidence. Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence.

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          That’s the thing. They aren’t exceptional claims. Would you like a list of democratically elected governments that have been toppled by the US gov’t?

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            8 months ago

            Is it from the last fifty years? Because if it’s Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc thats all agreed on. If you’re going to refer to that, then I get to apply the same logic and find fault with every other country in the world–we don’t get to pick and choose who we like. It doesn’t work like that. This is still an extraordinary claim for an event that happened last year.

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              Now you’re getting it, no country has clean hands, however America for sure has the bloodiest and most recent record of fuckery.

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                “america had the bloodiest”- haha good one. North Korea, Russia, the Uyghuirs in China, and a couple dozen other countries would like a word. I love the selective outrage on this platform.

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      8 months ago

      Maybe don’t be so offended when people rightly criticize your country. You didn’t choose to be born there.

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        I’m not offended. I didn’t even grow up in the US. I just hate the low effort and poor media literacy on social media. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The whole “America bad” is a worthless schtick intended just for virtue signaling.