• Shadywack@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    How to piss off everyone at LW, watch:

    I am voting for neither. I’m going to match what I care about with a specific candidate, because I don’t like Trump or Biden. [/opinion]

    Now I’ll just sit and wait for the “you idiot” comments and the vitriol geyser to blow. This should be entertaining to watch people think my vote’s going to make a difference in the electoral college.

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          7 months ago

          So there’s this cool thing with math where you can factor out common values.

          So if we have fascism+genocide vs notfascism+genocide, and we factor out the support for Israel, we get fascism vs nonfascism.

          That’s still an important election, regardless of whether both sides support Israel.

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            That’s still an important election, regardless of whether both sides support Israel.

            Sure, but consider what you’re saying here, if we cannot use our votes to effect change then what are you proposing people do?

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              7 months ago

              Well, for one, vote for the only major party that MIGHT give a shit about Gaza or may be less gung-ho about supporting Israel, and for two, advocate in other ways. Organize protests, make calls to your representatives and senators, donate to charities that will assist the people of Gaza, etc.

              Keep in mind, Donald Trump moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and doesn’t give a flying fuck about Gaza. He’s worse for Gaza than “Genocide Joe” is.

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                7 months ago

                Organize protests

                There have been protests about Biden sending arms to Israel. He continues to send arms to Israel. Politicians ignore protests.

                make calls to your representatives and senators

                People have called their representatives and senators objecting to sending arms to Israel. Arms continue to be sent to Israel.

                Clearly neither of these have worked. What else have you got?

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                  7 months ago

                  It’s like you’re expecting national policy to turn instantly based on protests. That’s now how the world works, unfortunately. Things take time.

                  It’s terrible, I’m not in any way trying to downplay the genocide that is happening. But Israel and the US have been firm allies for a long time. Change won’t come quickly. And it won’t come at all if Trump is elected.

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                    7 months ago

                    It’s like you’re expecting national policy to turn instantly based on protests.

                    You’re the one who claimed protesting works. If it did we would see material changes resulting from protests. We don’t. Protests obviously don’t work.

                    If your claim is “protests change policy decades later sometimes” then state that plainly.