• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Right. Sure. I agree with you. But you’re totally missing the point of what I was saying.

    If the cashier/life guard/security personal left for a few minutes or maybe longer the company that person works for didn’t “loose” money because they weren’t at their station.

    Being productive 100% isn’t possible and anything less than 100% isn’t a loss.

    Companies aren’t paying people for works performed but for works completed. The life guard being there at all constitutes them being at work. Just because they left and watched the eclipse for 10 minutes or went to the bathroom or took a personal call isn’t a loss!

    Which is why the only thing that matters is what work was completed not how much work they did in the time it took to complete.

    We need to change the way business interpret what constitutes paid labor.

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      7 months ago

      If the cashier/life guard/security personal left for a few minutes or maybe longer the company that person works for didn’t “loose” money because they weren’t at their station.

      If a cashier abandons their post, a nonzero amount of people will leave without purchase instead of waiting an unknown time for them to return.

      If a commercial pilot takes a detour to see the eclipse better they can cause huge ripple effects on other flights causing significant costs.

      If a security guard skips out on their post for a bit the business can be robbed or otherwise liable for issues during the lapse.

      If a lifeguard leaves their post unrelieved or isn’t fully paying attention and someone gets injured or dies that’s a serious financial liability (at least in the USA)

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        7 months ago

        If a cashier abandons their post, a nonzero amount of people will leave without purchase instead of waiting an unknown time for them to return.

        Even if there’s no one in the store because everyone is outside looking at the eclipse?

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          7 months ago

          Every single person is looking at the eclipse? I traveled during the eclipse and the majority of people around us didn’t care to go outside during the peak.

          Its easy to think that everyone cares about what we do.

          The commenter ive replied to was stressing that not even a single dollar was lost, and believing not a single person in the entire eclipse area was trying to make a transaction during this time is silly.

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            7 months ago

            Ok so you’re simultaneously assuming 0% of customers are looking at the eclipse and 100% of the cashiers want to go out and look at it?

            It feels like you’re just making up scenarios here. Seems more likely similar proportions of both cashiers and customers would be out looking at it.

            Now take for example a grocery store. Did the eclipse mean that people are going to eat less? Like because there were fewer cashiers, they suddenly decided they aren’t going to buy food this week? I’m pretty sure demand for food (or any other good) disappeared because the eclipse. So what’s the actual economic cost? Some businesses would have been less busy for about 20 minutes but then more busy later on.

            Thinking that a 20 minute pause in production is going to significantly impact demand is what seems silly to me. But then all of this supply side economics style of thinking is silly to me.