• pathief@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    You REALLY overestimate how much men like urinals. Have you ever seen an urinal at anyone’s home? Men would be perfectly fine with toilets.

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      6 months ago

      That’s some interesting conjecture there. Clearly you and I know different kinds of fellows.

      Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet. A tree is about as close as you can get to a urinal in nature. I’ve also seen guys wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available.

      Of course, not all men are like this, but I’ve met a nontrivial number who are.

      I’ve known guys who had urinals installed in their homes and whatnot. IMO, it’s weird, but they can do what they want.

      To be perfectly clear, I don’t believe that represents the majority of men, but an outspoken minority can be noisy enough to push the needle one way or another simply because the majority doesn’t care one way or the other. It happens all the time.

      There’s also the mindset of maintaining the status quo at all costs, whether because those people simply do not want to adapt or change, or because they want those that don’t fit into the narrow heteronormative viewpoint. The underlying reasons change, and sometimes people are genuine in their reasoning, but it’s all reasoning to keep with what we have and not change to something that is objectively better.

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        6 months ago

        wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available

        To be fair, I think that’s a misguided attempt at being “polite” or maybe even “fair”, as in they don’t need the toilet, so they’d rather not tie it up in case someone else does need it. But with as little time as it takes to piss, it’s a pretty pointless gesture.

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          6 months ago

          Agreed, that would be a pointless gesture.

          Most of the time when fellows use the toilet when the urinals are full, which does happen quite often, they don’t even fully latch, or even close the door for the stall.

          However, the fact that this is true, does not negate that there are a nontrivial number of guys who won’t use the toilet on principle.

          Both things can be true of different people.

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        6 months ago

        Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet.

        I’ve done that a few times. But personally it’s because a urinal is quiet and a toilet isn’t, and I’m rather self conscious about making noise in the bathroom.

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              6 months ago

              Fair enough. There are good arguments for it, mainly about the mess that’s made from not sitting down.

              Even if you have perfect aim, and a highly focused stream, splashback is a serious factor.

              There’s more, but that’s a big one.

              Far be it for me to tell you what to do, or what to like. Have a good day sir.

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                Even if you have perfect aim, and a highly focused stream, splashback is a serious factor.

                Yeah. I’m also aware of that, and I’m not thrilled about it. But ultimately a urinal, with a bit of focus/attention works just fine for keeping splashback to a minimum.

                No matter what you do, you’re gonna have more bacteria on you leaving a bathroom than when you came in. So at the end of the day, if you try to deal with it by washing your hands and minimize it where feasable, personal preferences are fine.

                Have a good day.

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      6 months ago

      I’m not sure how to feel now since three of my friends grew up in houses with urinals. Those were the upper middle class kids in suburban Bavaria.

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      6 months ago

      The reason urinals aren’t in homes is because enough women hate them that it affects the home a value.

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        6 months ago

        No, the reason is because no one even thinks about urinals. Many people actually prefer the privacy of a bathroom stall.