• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I just love the white self proclaimed leftists who insist that they’re the only ones in all of America who truly take the threat of fascism as seriously as needed and yet their advocated course ot action is to let the fascists get everything they want but blame it on the people actually trying to stop them for not catering enough to white self proclaimed leftist interests.

    They’ll still be singing the tune of how one day the DNC establishment will totally learn their lesson this time if we protest vote at the election the Christnats are holding as a sham, singing it all the way as they get frog marched to the gas chambers ahead of everyone they let the fascists kill first.

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      6 months ago

      It’s so intensely frustrating. Like, do they think I WANT to be here fighting with people to my left? Fuck, I’m at the point in my life where I don’t even want to be fighting online, period. But I also don’t want the accepted orthodoxy on here to end up being “ACCELERATIONISM IS GOOD ACTUALLY” by letting this dogshite go unchallenged or letting people asspat the kind of useful idiots who parrot it.

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          “I don’t WANT to fight people to my left!”

          dedicates all free time fighting people to his left, blaming THEM single handedly for Republicans instead of the Republicans even though the dems killed off any tangible left like 60 years ago

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        Seems like the current two choices in America is to either bend over and be fucked ever harder by the few who won the capitalism game, or to send it all to hell and play a different game where everyone gets fucked.

        WW3 here we go.

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      I just love the liberal plan of “the only way to stop fascism is by voting for blue fascism and patting them on the ass sating ‘good job’ as they get rewarded AGAIN and AGAIN for marching further right.”

      Y’all don’t even TALK about Republicans. All any of you do is piss on anybody left of mid right biden then shocked Pikachu when you don’t get our vote. If leftists are the cause of every dem loss as y’all absolutely can’t shut the fuck up about maybe you should stop framing us as bigger enemies than Republicans and actually move your policies leftward instead of sprinting right then getting mad that people think you’re too far right.

      Not to mention democrats are pulling every fascist trick in the book against the left, but you’re blue so its OK? Fuck off. Democrats are just blue MAGA and the only option to fix this country is to burn it down.

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        I just love the far left logic that thinks doing nothing will change everything.

        Ever four years- it’s the same dumb shit. There’s always a grassroots movement to change the status quo- meanwhile, you refuse to acknowledge that by definition….

        “every four years”- is STATUS FUCKING QUO.

        Do you not realize that the far left non-vote is already considered? They know you’re not voting. It’s piled into their numbers already.

        THAT is how status quo you are. You’re not bucking the system. You’re fucking part of it. Just like everyone else.

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          There’s that fascist propaganda again - that anyone who doesn’t vote blue “isn’t voting” and/or “is advocating for non voting.” You claim to be the good guys but good god y’all can’t help but lie and bully over the smallest, dumbest shit. You won’t speak out against Republicans because your platform is 95% the same, you just need the bogeyman of trump to attack your real enemies.

          Maybe if you put a quarter of the effort you put into painting anyone left of genocide Joe as Saturday morning cartoon villians into stopping Republicans you could win an election. Maybe, if you stopped using every fascist tactic you claim to be fighting against, people would stop calling you fascists.🤷

          Times up, y’all are saying the quiet parts out loud, and whether through “the process” (which I’ll remind you democrats officially cut off in court in 2016, so claims that the party can be moved left are officially explicit, provable lies) or through revolution, your worship of capital at all costs won’t save you.

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            ROFL… we now have people calling anyone that are trying to save democracy via voting- “propagandists.”

            How did we get here?

            People’s lives will depend on what happens in November. And those people will deserve to blame you if Trump takes away their rights.

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              There it is again! Claiming anyone who doesn’t vote for Biden “isn’t voting!”

              Y’all claim to be saving the country from fascists but y’all already can’t keep yourselves from checking every goddamn box.

              Othering of and misinformation about your political enemies, plus identification of enemies as a unifying cause (not Republicans of course, just leftists - y’all love the Republicans. Never a bad word about them except as a vague bogeyman to attack leftists with) - check

              Insistence that ONLY YOU can save the country - check

              Support of power consolidation by the executive branch - check

              Control of mass media - check

              Obsession with crime and punishment (y’all can’t shut the fuck up about how its gonna be “our fault” and we deserve what we get) - check

              Corporate power protected (the reason leftists are your real enemy) - check

              I could go on. You never have a bad word about Republicans because your platform is the same (fascism included) except you’re gracious enough to not murder gays.

              I said it before, I’ll say it again, all of you will dodge it again- if leftists are strong enough to tank an election for you maybe you should cater to those voters instead of pissing on them for 4 years, sprinting further right, then doing a shocked pikachu when you don’t get their vote.

              You obsess with calling leftists “accelerationists” but just like MAGA every accusation is a confession. Your party survives solely on having a Saturday morning cartoon villain to be the “good guys” against. You’d never fix anything, because a fixed system takes away the “all or nothing” narrative that glues the party together. Dems had the trifecta for plenty of time to codify plenty of shit, but if those basic rights weren’t constantly up in the air, what is your platform? All you’d have left is “all the shit Republicans want but 10% less crazy.”

              TLDR fuck off faschie.

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                Not voting or casting a throwaway vote on purpose to protest is the same fucking thing.

                I’ll tel you what-

                I’ll retract my statement and admit I’m wrong if you can provide evidence to show that ANY of the third party choices has a chance to beat Trump in November.

                Answer this without distraction. Answer this without whataboutism.

                Answer this with a name only. And show your work.

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        Leftists, simultaneously the cause of every Democratic electoral defeat, yet too insignificant a group to actually appeal to with policy, according to the Democrats. A true marvel of politics.

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          “B… B… But the CeNtRiStS!”

          (Which for at least the last 20 years have been nothing but undeclared Republicans who have never and will never ‘vote blue’)