• freshcow@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    Give me a fucking break if you think Hillary Clinton losing is because of Jill Stein

    • Grebes@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      Stein and Johnson had between 2 (FL) and 20 (MI) times the number of votes making up the margin between Trump and Clinton in FL, WI, MI, and PA. That would have made a difference.

      Either way, no third party is viable under the current system and pretending otherwise is the luxury of people who won’t be targeted if the Trump administration is allowed back into power.

      • III@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 months ago

        It is the luxury of the profoundly dense as well. Plenty of non-cis white males vote third party.

        • HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 months ago

          Cis white males don’t benefit from a Trump presidency either, they just don’t get fucked quite as much as everyone else. They’re still going to get poorer and suffer from reduced workers rights.

          The only people who are truly safe are the ultra wealthy

      • njordomir@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        5 months ago

        If enough people vote third party, it’s supposed to pull the big two towards them to recapture those voters. If the Dems aren’t courting these voters, it’s their fault and an indication that they can’t be trusted to represent us. Instead, they ignored us completely and will continue down the same bullshit paths that brought us here. If we don’t vote third party, nothing will change because the Dems view us as suckers who will fall in line. That’s why they shamelessly did Bernie dirty. Biden and the Dems have been flopping around their hardon for Israel while it’s obviously splitting their base. It’s almost like they want to lose.

        Having said all that, I may vote for Biden this time anyway because I told myself long ago that I would vote for the first prez who rescheduled or legalized cannabis.

    • PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      5 months ago

      i’m pretty sure it was the other way around. jill stein lost by fewer votes than hilary stole from the green party. the democrats spoiled the green revolution.