Cheney hates Trump because of his ties to Russia. For threatening to have the US leave NATO. January 6th. And above all the cardinal GOP sin of attacking fellow party members. Liz has repeatedly been the focus of Trump’s outbursts because she’s stood up to him. And to a ghoul like Cheney, attacking the in-group is a big no no. Especially his own daughter.
Plenty more Republicans are supporting Kamala Harris and they have good reasons that don’t involve Russia. Furthermore, most true Republicans see the destruction of the conservative party by MAGA and want to defeat it to save the party.
If the Democratic party gets to be too large of a tent, and the Republican party shrinks, eventually the Democratic party will fracture too, and we might get a real progressive party out of it.
Is it shrinking? The popular vote doesn’t suggest so.
2004: Bush 62M (W, 51%) Kerry 59M (L)
2008: McCain 60M (L, 47%) Obama 69M (W)
2012: Romney 60M (L, 48%) Obama 66M (W)
2016: Trump 63M (W, 48%). Hillary 68M (L)
2020: Trump 74M (L, 46%) Biden 81M (W)
Edit: added the Republicans percentages.
eventually the Democratic party will fracture too, and we might get a real progressive party out of it.
When will this happen? How would this even be different than now? If the “Democratic party” turn into Republicans on the issues to get rid of the “Republican party”, you didn’t get rid of Republicans. You rebranded them and gave them victory on the policy front just to claim victory on the optics front…
It seems much more likely that the Democratic parties policy of appeasement leads to normalization of right wing policies and we get full blown facsism first.
Except the democratic party isn’t a large tent. There are almost no leftists in power in it. And those voters that are leftists are rapidly leaving the party.
You can’t get a progressive party by becoming the white suburbanite party.
most true Republicans see the destruction of the conservative party by MAGA and want to defeat it to save the party.
Where were nearly all of them for the past 8 years? Oh yeah, supporting Trump and maga.
I’m glad they are going to help defeat him in 2024, but they can eat a bag of dicks after that. I’ll neither forgive nor forget the monster they invited into the nation (and I mean the entire maga crowd and mindset, not just Trump). It would be within the realm of scifi for me to vote for a Republican as so much a a local fileclerk at any point between now and when old age takes me.
Not related to that at all.
Cheney hates Trump because of his ties to Russia. For threatening to have the US leave NATO. January 6th. And above all the cardinal GOP sin of attacking fellow party members. Liz has repeatedly been the focus of Trump’s outbursts because she’s stood up to him. And to a ghoul like Cheney, attacking the in-group is a big no no. Especially his own daughter.
Plenty more Republicans are supporting Kamala Harris and they have good reasons that don’t involve Russia. Furthermore, most true Republicans see the destruction of the conservative party by MAGA and want to defeat it to save the party.
So you think it’s a good thing that today’s Democrats are yesterday’s Republicans?
What does that tell you about tomorrows Democrats?
We have to stop catering to and priding ourselves on how much Republicans like us, Republicans only like Republicans.
If the Democratic party gets to be too large of a tent, and the Republican party shrinks, eventually the Democratic party will fracture too, and we might get a real progressive party out of it.
Is it shrinking? The popular vote doesn’t suggest so.
2004: Bush 62M (W, 51%) Kerry 59M (L)
2008: McCain 60M (L, 47%) Obama 69M (W)
2012: Romney 60M (L, 48%) Obama 66M (W)
2016: Trump 63M (W, 48%). Hillary 68M (L)
2020: Trump 74M (L, 46%) Biden 81M (W)
Edit: added the Republicans percentages.
When will this happen? How would this even be different than now? If the “Democratic party” turn into Republicans on the issues to get rid of the “Republican party”, you didn’t get rid of Republicans. You rebranded them and gave them victory on the policy front just to claim victory on the optics front…
It seems much more likely that the Democratic parties policy of appeasement leads to normalization of right wing policies and we get full blown facsism first.
Except the democratic party isn’t a large tent. There are almost no leftists in power in it. And those voters that are leftists are rapidly leaving the party.
You can’t get a progressive party by becoming the white suburbanite party.
Where were nearly all of them for the past 8 years? Oh yeah, supporting Trump and maga.
I’m glad they are going to help defeat him in 2024, but they can eat a bag of dicks after that. I’ll neither forgive nor forget the monster they invited into the nation (and I mean the entire maga crowd and mindset, not just Trump). It would be within the realm of scifi for me to vote for a Republican as so much a a local fileclerk at any point between now and when old age takes me.
Being protective of your own daughter is hardly due to being a ghoul.
I mean, Dick Cheney is a ghoul, but not for this reason.