2w ago

Wafrn (tumblr alternative with fediverse and bluesky support) has started using an alternate relay; this means that they depend on none of bluesky's infrastructure to work.

Bluesky post by @gabboman.at.app.wafrn.net saying: "Thanks a lot to @rudyfraser.com for hosting the blacksky PDS. After confirmating thatis ok, wafrn now uses blacksky's relay! In the next update other wafrns may also use the relay"

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mesa @piefed.social 2w ago
Oh good. One step closer to real federation. With multiple protocols. AP + AT.
- Ⓜ3️⃣3️⃣ 🌌 @lemmy.zip 2w ago
  Meh, the one and only walking protocol is AT-AT
- irelephant [he/him] @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago
  What do you mean by real federation?
  
  arudesalad @piefed.ca 2w ago
  Right now federation between atproto and activitypub is opt in (and not developed by the big platforms such as bluesky and mastodon) with bridgyfed.
Remy Rose @piefed.social 2w ago
As a non-techy person, I was under the impression from lots of fedi folks that it would either cost a fortune or otherwise be quite impractical to completely divorce ATProto from bluesky itself. However, as a WAFRN enjoyer, Gabbo seems to really know what he's doing, and he actually prefers ATProto over AP... What's the actual deal here?? Is it easier than expected somehow?
- irelephant [he/him] @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago
  A lot of people's research about bluesky is just the "How decentralised is bluesky really?" article by Christine lemmer-webber.
  While the article was good at the time, and still has some relevant parts, a lot has changed since then.
  Namely, relays got cheaper to run (about $30 a month).
  Right now the problem is that everyone uses bluesky's infrastructure (and PDS migration is a bit spotty, but bluesky is working on that).
  Also: AP is pain. The spec was rushed and doesn't include a lot of key details. Atproto was better thought out (at least in my opinion).
- ctry21 @sh.itjust.works 2w ago
  I saw it mentioned in this Cory Doctorow article a week or two back about some of his issues with bluesky, but he mentions here that the cost has came down from tens of millions a year down to tens of dollars a month
  Hadn't heard of wafrn until seeing it on f-droid this morning but I might give it a try, a tumblr-like platform would be nice since tumblr seems to have given up on using ActivityPub.
- Die4Ever @retrolemmy.com 2w ago
  Pretty cool. I won't get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
  I'd be afraid of one company having too much power over the whole network.
  
  mesa @piefed.social 2w ago
  Yep it should be spread out as much as possible.
  
  gabboman @lemmy.world 2w ago
  Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
  well I wont get that if YOU dont join
Die4Ever @retrolemmy.com 2w ago
Here's a link https://app.wafrn.net/
- indomara @lemmy.world 6d ago
  Thank you! Is there an android client for it? It looks neat!
  
  Die4Ever @retrolemmy.com 6d ago
  https://f-droid.org/packages/dev.djara.wafrn_rn
- irelephant [he/him] @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago
  oh yeah, probably should have linked it.

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