Who was running the Democratic side of the race? Centrist democrats, or leftists? Maybe try blaming the people who had any kind of power, rather than those of us who were pointing out all along what a shitty campaign it was from the outside.

I voted for her. This meme is still correct.

The problem is it’s not clear who could enforce a judgment on him. If DC police tried to arrest him, they wouldn’t get through the door. Him being president makes it very difficult, as a practical matter, to actually punish him in any way.

I voted for her. The Democrats are still at fault.

Sending an electoral college message is a decent argument. I’m not persuaded about the house and senate argument though. In my case, I may not vote for Harris, because as somebody from Washington, she’s not gonna lose Washington. But I’m voting for a bunch of downballot Dems because they’re better progressives on a bunch of issues that Harris is not a good on. If it were even within fifteen points in Washington I’d vote for her, but I don’t want to vote for genocide if I don’t have to.

Those people didn’t even look at a poll (which were actually fairly accurate that year)? They didn’t even check to see if Hillary was within ten points of losing their state (a greater margin of error than any modern polling miss)? That’s on them. That’s not what I’m advocating here.

Voting for the Dems, a centrist party, in a non swing state, IS throwing your vote away. It will not make a difference and you’re not expressing who you really support. The point of voting is (in order) to (1) reduce the terrible shit that’s happening in our country and (2) to express your political preferences. If you’re in a swing state you cannot do (1) by voting, and if you vote for the Dems you cannot do (2), assuming you’re not a shitty centrist.

I’m in Washington. The Dems are not losing Washington. You’re in Georgia. The Dems stand a good chance of losing Georgia. That’s the difference.

I think people forget what it’s like to not live in a swing state. I haven’t seen an ad for a presidential candidate all year.

If you’re not in a swing state, and Harris is going to win your state easily, it’s fine to vote for a third party. If there’s even a slim chance she is going to lose your state, you can’t justify it. Harm reduction, guys.

It’s remarkable to see people still denying that Trump is a fascist. He tried to use violence to overthrow the government. He’s a fascist.

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

I mean, this is supposed to be where the distinction between sex and gender comes up. So it’d be incorrect to say trans women are men, but correct (I guess) to say they’re male. I don’t know, I might be behind the times.

Hell yeah on changing your opinion to fit the facts, dude. Let’s hear it for rational discourse!

I think people on the left love Bernie because there aren’t a lot of terrible skeletons in his closet. There are still a TON of things that Bernie could do that would make me dislike him and not support him. There is almost nothing Trump could do that would make a Trump supporter dislike him and not support him. That’s the difference.

In other words, admiring someone for their ideals and action is not the same as unconditionally supporting them. No politician deserves the latter.

“Man far worse than Trump refuses to condemn Trump” lol big surprise.

In the states, a significant bug infestation of any kind is a landlord problem.

Needs more Goya

Capitalism has only existed for a couple centuries. Something that new can’t be human nature!

I listened to Infowars for fun for years. Surely it’s possible to listen to something and not start believing it. Maybe you’re right in general though.

Pretty standard of chapo haters to only see the most surface-level reading of anything they post on social media.