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  • Amerikkka land of the jailed (But China is defo AuThOrITarIAn!!)

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  • We don't need anti-American propaganda, we already hate America, my guy

  • President Trump Is Alive. The Internet Was Convinced Otherwise.

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  • Nah, I spent the weekend touching grass

  • President Trump Is Alive. The Internet Was Convinced Otherwise.

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  • Qanon conspiracy theories: the Liberals are running a pedophile ring out of one specific pizzeria to harvest adrenochrome to extend their lifespans!!!

    BlueAnon conspiracy theories: a 79 year old man with waning energy and health symptoms has died!!!

  • Adaptation attempt for this meme 😁

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  • Thanks sharkfucker420

  • Toxic empathy...?

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  • My experience with empathy is that empathy isn't an act, it's an emotion. Your descriptions track more closely with charity, heroism and justice - behaviors that are certainly closely linked with empathy. But I'm confident that the best definition of empathy explicitly does not include behaviors.

    On a tangent, it's incredibly self-destructive to take ownership of others' feelings, especially negative ones. To support my statement, it's predicated on empathy, but exhibits non-constructive behaviors.

  • Toxic empathy...?

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  • Not really making an argument, just want to speak precisely.

    Empathy used to justify or enable harmful actions is toxic. Like, say, people who use at an excuse for retribution, or people who do something harmful to soothe their own empathy, or people who enable another's toxic activities out of empathy.

    Empathy and compassion aren't very well-defined, but I have always understood empathy to be about sharing in another's feelings, good or bad. Compassion is a little more distanced, it's about understanding another's feelings and simultaneously being considerate about it.

    Empathy can be very powerful, and introduce feelings and emotions into someone who doesn't know how to deal with them well.

    BTW I'm not trying to make a case against empathy, not at all. But I think about empathy and compassion a lot, and while I still want to champion them as virtues, they can be just as complex and subtle as any other human experience. I think our lack of nuanced understanding of empathy and compassion is a root cause of a lot of human problems, especially recently.

  • Toxic empathy...?

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  • There's a form of empathy I, and I think some of my friends, experience by being raised by selfish parents. We're hyper-aware of others' feelings, dread upsetting anyone, and take personal responsibility for other peoples' unhappiness (all of it, even if we didn't have any influence).

    There's another form, that's kind of like a complement to retribution and revenge. A person goes overboard trying to soothe their own empathy-inspired unhappiness that they to go absurd ends to address the source of unhappiness. Maybe like PETA, or people experiencing moral panic.

    Another form that comes to mind is the mother from Requiem for a Dream - enablers. She knows her son is an addict, she knows that he's constantly stealing her TV to sell for drug money, but she dutifully buys her TV back from the pawn shop every time, because she can't say no to her son.

    I suppose, taking drastic action to soothe one's own empathy, and not addressing the real source of unhappiness, can be pretty toxic, especially when used to manipulate, coerce and sway others.

  • Toxic empathy...?

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  • So, this is controversial, but when I hear "toxic masculinity" I understand that it means that not all masculinity is toxic, but masculinity can have toxic forms. In the interest of using precise language, I do believe that, in the realm of all possibilities, there can conceivably be toxic forms of empathy.

    Now, I don't think that left/progressive ideals are toxic in general, and certainly aren't toxic when they're based in empathy and compassion. And I realize that the "side" that coined the phrase "toxic empathy" is also the side that thinks "toxic masculinity" is an absolute phrase. So it would make sense that right/conservative people would think "oh we'll call ideals we don't like toxic, like the libs do with masculinity" without any deeper understanding.

    Just want to be pedantic to try to keep the capital-D Discourse on the nature of empathy from becoming black-and-white polarized.

  • Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes

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  • A bad workman blames their tools

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  • Sneaky

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  • Oh ok. I understand better. Thank you for taking the time to explain it :)

    I see MLs talk about "liberalism" and, correctly or not, I think of the French Revolution. It seems though that that term is instead of "neoliberalism," I think (?). I can see the narrative that "liberalism" and "fascism" are like masks that capitalist structures wear, like modes of operation. But it's also confusing because those two concepts don't descend directly from fascism.

    And I think I'm picking up that ML is a the revolutionary part of expanding communism, and I guess that's why it's not just Marxism? Because Marx foresaw the fundamental changes that needed to happen, and Lenin instantiated it? I haven't read Marx yet, it's on my list of shame, I suppose 😅

    Since we have an open dialogue, I'm also curious of your opinion about "tankie"ism. Specifically, why not-so-pro-communist people see MLs as tankies that defend or deny authoritarian crimes against humanity.

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  • I have to admit this may be a failing in my own political education. 😅 Why do you think liberalism and fascism are "the same ideology in different circumstances"? I think McCarthyism is a modern example of violent anti-communism, and I agree, that got really close to fascism. (Although I could argue that violent anti-anything would lead to fascism.)

    I'm wondering if, like, Marxism-Leninism is something like "communism is what organized societies would naturally look like, and everything else is an authority asserting itself unfairly" sort of mindset.

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  • So, when you say "anti-communism", do you mean an organized front resisting and opposing communism, or just anyone who has an non-pro-communist opinion?

    I imagine if I said something like "yeah capitalism has failed us, but that doesn't mean I want a planned economy" you might respond by saying I'm a wishy-washy centrist.

  • 'Legend Of Zelda' Movie Casts Bo Bragason & Benjamin Evan Ainsworth, Releasing May 7, 2027

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  • Missouri AG: Any AI That Doesn’t Praise Donald Trump Might Be “Consumer Fraud” (No, Really)

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  • Have you asked Grok about the Jewish Holocaust?

  • 128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump

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  • 'No gay, no pay': The RuneScape community is absolutely mauling Jagex's new CEO over his decision to cancel new Pride Month events

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  • Nice use of "gormless" 👏

  • Tesla dumping unsold Cybertrucks at mall parking lot and the city’s fed up

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  • Credit.

  • We rescued this lil orc at the humane society!

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  • So, like, you're wrong, but there's a lot of nuance here.

    1. Pitbulls, if raised well, can be some of the sweetest and most sociable dogs around.
    2. They're still bred for fighting and violence and no matter how friendly a pitbull is, the owners still need to be very careful around strangers, kids, and unfamiliar dogs.
    3. In the end, humans made pitbulls, and I think that gives us a responsibility to both take care of the pitbulls that exist and also not breed any more. Like a lot of dog breeds, humans have bred them to be miserable or dangerous for petty, dumb and selfish purposes. Maybe the smartest and most compassionate thing to do is to let the breeds expire while making sure the living are as happy, healthy and safe as possible.

  • We rescued this lil orc at the humane society!

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  • I don't think a backyard breeder would say "well, crap, the shelter can't take older pitties, guess I won't breed them." They're probably in it for money and clout, and they'll find a way to get rid of unwanted dogs one way or another.