Blaze

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

SoftestSapphic

You probably are not aware, but that user is known to be toxic. A lot of the mod action reasons are "be respectful" or "civility"

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=18071443

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

It's not that deep, it's just people getting banned over downvoting in communities they don't contribute to. A debate even older than Lemmy

I still also can’t fathom the apparently successful effort to start to split people into “pro AI” and “anti AI” camps.

Yeah, I just don't get why it's getting so heated lately https://lemmy.world/post/31072292/17587686

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162/17029381

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

The first link refers to that exchange indeed. Everyone can interpret that conversation on their own.

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

For context

The whole thing is quite large for a temporary 7 days ban, but the reported person is a prolific poster, so a lot of people had comments to make.

On the other hand the voting / flair system implemented on dbzer0 is quite unique, in a positive way https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49093780

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

That whole thing got debunked quite quickly https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640/20291854

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

I went through that thread on LW, PJ didn't really make that much of a good case for himself

https://lemmy.world/post/33338615/18423417

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

PugJesus already gave a pretty detailed reply that more or less mirrored what I would want to say about it (which Unruffled of course did not respond to.)

Nobody on dbzer0 saw that reply, and even less could respond to it as he's banned from the instance.

Maybe that's the piece missing to solve that matter.

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

This was pretty much my point. lemmy.ml and Hexbear love how their admins behave, and that’s all the admins feel like they need to know. My point was that (a) you’re starting to operate along the same lines, it looks like, and (b) that’s not always a good thing.

Any admins should act upon harassment of one of their users, especially if the admins of the harassers don't.

I care more about the bullying and fact-free mentality, that big thread with people making up nonsense about the target of the day.

Isn't that the concept of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com since its inception?

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

Hm, good point

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

@hark@lemmy.world , could you maybe add a "ban reserved" or something in the title?

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

Every single one of the issues you’ve listed, you’ve reframed it into something different than it was. Neopronouns were never the issue, it was blahaj shielding a transphobic troll from criticism and banning people who complained about them (complained about them while using accepted pronouns, usually while explicitly saying ‘yes I’m fine using people’s pronouns’), purely because the troll cleverly decided to involve neopronouns into the issue. And then pretending that anyone who was on the “enemy” side was obviously a pronoun-hater and that was the entirety of the issue.

That's your framing of the situation.

An alternative perspective is that the "pronouns cannot relate to imaginary creatures" is gender gatekeeping.
Drag was potentially trolling, but if nobody ever took the bait, nothing would have happened.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162

We can all yell at him, insult him, nothing needs to be justified

People brought justifications

In some forums, that kind of thing is disallowed. If you make personal attacks or insults, you get mod action

Direct attacks are usually removed

You had your politics but you weren’t dishonestly attacking

I'm am going to be honest with you, I didn't expect you to make this kind of comments

Cool! Now accuse him of caring way too much about politics, and getting in heated debates about it like a LOSER, speaking as you are from your lemmy.ml address. That’ll make perfect sense too.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20291493

Also, not sure why it's not okay for dbzer0 to have a "our users" stance while you broadly categorize all .ml users as "losers"

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

I've been following things from afar.

they started jumping into among other places a 4-day-old thread to try to continue the argument.

People who use "New comments" are going to see new comments posted, whatever old the threads are. I use that filter, and I regularly comment on weeks old threads to reply to someone.

Eugene's comments on the 4-days old thread came up when you mentioned that UM was involved (whey they were not, and you know I'm not a fan of UM), and it was made by another user: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640/20291854

he kept emphasizing that, like I need to treat someone different because they’re an admin, IDK, bow and scrape?

The context is

you making statements such as
Good fuckin’ God man. dbzer0, we love you, quit trippin’. Just relax. Not everyone you don’t like or agree with is “abusive.” ( https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20248829 )
a db0 admin replying: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20288502

If you accuse an instance of power tripping, be ready to answer when they reply, otherwise it just seems to be arguing in bad faith.

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

@MrKaplan@lemmy.world

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

I had a quick look

Man, you definitely were running some major hostility towards world at one point. I’ll concede that the comment was probably overstating the point, and definitely unnecessarily hostile, but it also wasn’t unprovoked.

I'm not going to go that route again

Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1mo ago

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