I live in a really liberal state. So my vote doesn’t actually matter.

I’ll consider it, and I appreciate the kind response, but to be honest I think if people keep placating them with “lesser of two evils votes” nothing will change.

Hopefully the party can draw conclusions about the 10m people who sat this one out vs 2020, and figure out why.

Edit: do you have an article or transcript for the link? I’m not a video person I prefer to read

They have 4 years to tighten up. I’m not optimistic. The only victory they have had since Obama was a fear victory… nobody wanted Biden they were scared of trump. That is played out.

The right did a good job of parading him around as an anti-establishment, for the common people candidate. I don’t think that’s true, but a lot of people do.

I hope the D party reorganizes as a populist anti-establishment party and holds a ranked choice primary with some young actually left leaning candidates who can’t be bought.

To be honest, if the D party don’t reform and earn my vote, I’m not giving it to them out of fear anymore. Before trump I had a “no lesser of two evils” policy for voting. And I’m going back to it. They had 4 years to plan, hold a primary, do some prosecuting of rich criminals, understand why Trump’s popular and strategize to beat it, literally fucking anything. Did they?

I’m over it, they can run a fair primary with some progressive candidates and let the people decide, and then I’ll vote. Tired of whatever they’re doing and it looks like a lot of others are as well. Hope they figure out the obvious issue they have and fix it. Since its a two party system they’re hogging the only route that the left has to success and fucking it up remarkably bad. Like I could do a better job and I’m an idiot.

I’m honestly not sure it’s even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it’s a big complicated issue.

We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it’s easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that’s likely some of it.

I think it’s too complex to attribute to one thing, I think you’re right that the alt right social media pipeline is real and an issue.

I’m just saying I understand not identifying with a group who trash an identity a person belongs to. They just disengage. Nobody likes being put into a box that paints them as a villain.

Just my opinion of course, the left (as a social group) can examine the current discourse and try to adjust, maybe like framing it as a class struggle or a liberty struggle, or continue being divisive and risk being overridden.

Or discourse like that could be why young men are choosing the right.

Why I’m here (first comment yay)