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  • History

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  • As recently as the 90s in my area, I should have said. I... don't doubt that many areas are still fucking terrible on the matter, both by use of old textbooks and by whatever the fuck the GOP is pushing in red states.

  • History

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  • If Germany had minded their own genocide of minorities and borders, the US (and many other countries) probably never would have intervened.

    Horrific, isn't it?

  • Republicans were cooler back when Marx liked them

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  • Partly, but not entirely - there were two previous ideological shifts in the Republican Party - 1870 -1890, and ~1910 - which also detached the radical labor element from the Republican Party, making the control of capital over the party more total, and increased the core policy hostility towards workers - necessitating appealing to other prejudices to win over the working class votes necessary to win elections.

  • Political Memes @lemmy.world
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    Republicans were cooler back when Marx liked them

  • History

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  • It's gotten better, at least. My school had modern textbooks when I was growing up, but I remember one of my middle school history teachers, who was old enough to have taught a Black school during segregation (and was, naturally, scathing about the cruelty and hypocrisy of segregation despite being a white guy), talking about the kind of things textbooks used to peddle as recently as the 90s.

    He was a cool guy.

  • memes @lemmy.world
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    The good doctor

  • Mass migration to Piefed for various history and meme subs!

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  • The best way to provide ! links that work for the most people is just to type them out as plain text, not as a hyperlink to anything.

    Sorry, I'm used to Lemmy's markup, which automatically makes them a hyperlink. I imitated that without considering that it might be different on Piefed. I've got practices to unlearn, it would seem.

  • Mass migration to Piefed for various history and meme subs!

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  • Moving to PieFed OK, but why everything to the one instance? Didn't we learn anything from having everything @world?

    It would be one thing if this were several people moving their comms to Piefed.social, but it's literally just me. Piefed.social is still small, I don't think me moving is going to cause it to centralize, especially considering that there are other major Piefed instances already extant.

    Decentralization should be done by different people and groups choosing different instances, but all of us federating with each other and participating in each other's comms; not in expecting one person to spread themselves over half-a-dozen different instances.

  • Mass migration to Piefed for various history and meme subs!

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  • Sorry, they work on Lemmy. I'm not sure how to do markup for non-Lemmy instances yet, I'm learning.

  • New Communities @lemmy.world
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    Mass migration to Piefed for various history and meme subs!

  • memes @lemmy.world
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    Varlet! Copium has no expiration date!

  • Dooku the White

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  • midwest.social has few active admins, and the most active one has made some questionable moderation decisions. Fighting instance-level administration is a bigger problem than comm-level moderation, so many of us chose to shift away from midwest.social.

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • Terminally online behavior.

    Uh, yes, that's why I pointed it out?

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • Unlike, of course, seven months' worth of impassioned ranting and lying about a commenter who rarely even interacts with you

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • Any drama must be posted as an observer, you cannot post drama that you are involved with.

    When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.

    Both of the top rules of the Fediverse drama sub are kind of antithetical to the point of FediverseSlander.

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • There's a Fediverse drama sub, but it's about recording rather than disproving drama, and doesn't allow drama to be posted by anyone involved in the drama.

    This is more about disproving false claims that come about in the process of Fediverse drama, and allows people to bring up their own cases, so long as they come with evidence that the claim is false, and not just counter-accusations or unsupported denials.

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • That's valid, both in the criticism of the behavior and of drama comms more generally. I'd argue that the catharsis is a large part of the motivation here though, with a secondary effect of having an easier tool to refute recurring rumors from dedicated trolls which can, nonetheless, become 'common knowledge' - and who the fuck wants to write out a screed every time to contest it when they see it just so they don't get, by repetition and convincingly phrased lies, a reputation as a dog-fucker or something like that? Better to do it once and have it to easily refer to.

    As someone who is deeply combative, and, for that matter, abrasive enough that I've made a few people hate my guts to the point of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, I've waded into enough comment sections to dispute being called utter bullshit to find it tedious. I find the idea of a centralized comm mandating verification for disproving claims to be a somewhat comforting idea in comparison to games of drama whack-a-mole between conflicting personalities. That the comm mandates 'receipts' and specific, rather than general, claims also reduces the bullshit quotient that drives ugliness in many drama comms. It's not here to tell a story, but to point out that a specific claim is provably false and bad faith.

    I would also argue that with the Fediverse still being as small as it is, unlike in something the size of, say, Reddit, there's a much greater element similar to old-style forums in that personalities are, for both better and worse, capable of becoming well-known fixtures either by their own behavior (even when they have nothing particularly exceptional to offer except participation in the community) or by games of internet telephone. A lack of drama communities, in this case, would not mean a lack of drama, but a lack of verification - unlike in larger milieus, like Reddit, where drama communities are the primary vehicle for reputations, good and bad, in smaller milieus, drama communities are more repositories for the accumulation of extant and active drama.

    But again, I also don't entirely disagree with your criticisms. As I said, I find the routine tedious - that this is meant to minimize the whole song-and-dance is appealing to me, but the objectively less-tedious (if not necessarily less gossip-suppressing) option would be to simply not-engage. Many of us, however, find not-engaging to be as irritating or more irritating than engaging - which while a personal flaw, is also not exactly something that can be waved away. And drama communities can absolutely (and are uniquely inclined to) devolve into very ugly things by the nature of everyone playing "gawk and take sides", especially if a circlejerk mentality begins to emerge in them. I suppose all I can say there is that if things get bad and I'm cognizant of the fact, I'm not averse to axing the comm myself.

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • I mean, I thought the whole point of the comic was that it's an extremely common urge, just expressed in a stark way that highlights that we, as human beings, are silly animals with space-age technology.

    At the same time, this comm isn't so much for people being wrong on the internet - you could say that most comms with any amount of controversy center around people quarreling over others being wrong on the internet. This is, specifically, for recording and disproving people slandering other users. "John believes in Flat Earth Theory" doesn't belong here unless John provably doesn't believe in Flat Earth Theory - in which case it's probably not the accuser bringing the issue, but the falsely accused, who then has something to easily and publicly refer to to dispute the slander going forward.

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • Isn't the fight started with the slander, not with its rebuttal?

  • FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

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  • If they don't, they don't. It's whatever in the end, at least from my pov. The point of the comm is primarily for venting and establishing the truth of a matter.

    Informing the slanderers in question would be a nice option to have for those of us who want it, but not really core to the idea of the comm.

  • New Communities @lemmy.world
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    FediverseSlander, a pointless drama comm for kvetching about when there are blatant lies told about other users on the Fediverse. Come with receipts or not at all!

  • Some questions about Piefed.social

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  • I meant the question as "What if I posted those examples on a Piefed.social comm", but thank you for clarification!

  • Some questions about Piefed.social

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  • Fantastic on all accounts! I don't have much, but regardless of whether I make the move, I'm going to see if I can scrounge up for a monthly donation in the near future!

  • Some questions about Piefed.social

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  • With regards to rule 6 - what is the definition of sexually explicit content? For example, I recently posted, in .world, a 1st century AD artifact of a gladiator wind-chime fighting his own penis. Surely that is sexually explicit - is it banned? Similarly, on rare occasion I post risque memes with nudity or near-nudity and humorous sexual themes. Are those banned from Piefed.social?

  • PieFed Meta @piefed.social
    PugJesus @piefed.social

    Some questions about Piefed.social