TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]

If you look into it, most of the indpendent experts are one right wing crank, Adrian Zenz, who is 100% funded by the UK State-Owned BBC and an American intelligence cutout organization called the NED. He’s a far-right Christian Zionist who doesn’t speak a word of Mandarin. You should be happy that there’s no genocide in Xinjiang (even Zenz has never claimed this), mad that your tax dollars likely went to fund his bogus cause, and furious that those same tax dollars are also being used to conduct a real genocide in Gaza.

If Gaza hasn’t shown you that Uyghur Genocide was a crackpot evangelical conspiracy theory cooked up in a Langley basement then nothing will

China is a force for good and Russia is the harm reduction candidate vs the US.

I believe that democrats should at the very least oppose genocide (rather than encourage it) if they want to be considered different from the republicans.

What does it mean to “break” a people?

The Chinese people were certainly already “broken” in 1949. They had undergone a century of collapse, most were illiterate, women were essentially chattel, and every single grain of wheat or rice more than what was required to keep them alive was stolen by unelected landlords.

The communists took power and every single one of them was taught to read, women were enfranchised, no-fault divorce and abortion were legalized, political rights were expanded, opium and gangs were chased out of the mainland and the feudal lords were held to account.

30 years after the revolution they had turned a society of feudal peasants into a nuclear power, 30 years after that and it’s the world’s largest economy by PPP.

The same things can be said about the Bolsheviks, who defeated a nazi army which sought to annihilate them.

Chinese foreign policy has rarely deviated from moderate, trade-oriented and relatively apolitical over the past few decades. I think the massive allocation of US taxpayer funds toward negative coverage of China has swayed your opinion to the most hawkish extreme. None of these accusations really exist outside of the anglosphere and HK/Taiwan based Sinophone disinfo networks, however most of them are widely acknowledged as crimes that the US has committed in the very recent past in some capacity.

There’s no valid argument for Taiwan’s independence as a Chinese settler colony. As proof, the entire DPP argument depends on Chinese settlers pulling a Liz Warren and pretending to be native. It’s also totally incoherent to claim they’re a separate country but were also justified in looting billions of dollars worth of gold from “its” land, as if Beijing isn’t a thousand miles away from Taipei.

As for the civil war being easy, the KMT had the support of every US president, Stalin, and Hitler, which is just to say they had everyone’s support. The KMT flag would be over China right now if they had simply not tried to murder the communists in cold blood. I guess they did make things hard on themselves.

For context: the DPP is the pro-indpendence ultranationalist party founded by local landed elites who collaborated with the Japanese empire during wwii. To this day many Taiwanese ultranationalists around the DPP deny Japanese atrocities such as Nanjing and Unit 731. This may not be the most reliable source, three pinocchios!

Taiwan is currently a Chinese settler colonial regime that functions as an American military base and microchip factory. If they want sovereignty, they should give the land back to the natives they stole it from and return the billions of dollars worth of gold and artifacts they looted from the Qing coffers after they (catastrophically) lost the easiest civil war in history.

Holy shit is this a bit? Do people on here really still believe in a neutral or unbiased press? Shouldn’t virtually every event from the Iraq war onward have already disillusioned you of that?

The problem though is that these issues are self-perpetuating. Both the current Russian and post-2014 Ukraine governments are the products of US interference. If we were truly spreading Democracy, then they would be capable of mediating these conflicts peacefully. Since Capital dictates the terms of our international intervention, it puts its own interests first, and it’s very interested in selling weapons. I just can’t accept the premise that selling more weapons will lead to any sort of long-lasting peace or democracy in the region.

Ukraine has used internationally banned cluster munitions in the donbass since 2014. A six year old playing in a field and dying to unexploded ordnance, whether that child is a Russian or Ukrainian speaker, is a horrific tragedy. These bombs are a form of terrorism sponsored by the post-coup Ukrainian state, and the nazi paramilitaries active in the area were and are state-sponsored terrorists.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

China is ruled by a military dictatorship, and under that form of government the people have 0 rights and 0 say in any government policy

Not even the most devoted ideologue for the US state department would claim something this ludicrous. How do “leftists” arrive at this conclusion?

That’s fine but why are they banning socialist parties, integrating fascist paramilitaries into the army, and privatizing land? That all seems a little familiar.

The PRC objectively has a better human rights record than the RoC.