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  • This viral video has people talking about Christianity versus ‘MAGA Christianity’

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  • Wait, are you telling me the Bible is contradictory?!?

    I'm not telling you anything, I simply quoted it. Read the passages.

    If you see a contradiction then that's what your brain is telling yourself.

    Or are you going to argue that according to the Bible, it's other Christians who are actually the ones who are meant to judge?

    I'm not going to argue anything. I'm simply going to quote the Bible again.

    But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

    What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

    -Corinthians 5:11-13

  • This viral video has people talking about Christianity versus ‘MAGA Christianity’

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  • They are whether you like that or not.

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

    -Matthew 7:21

    Pretty sure your savior had a lot to say about judging others.

    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

    -Matthew 7:15

  • Weapons Of Mass Deception

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  • I guess reading comprehension is that bad. Here was the rest of the comment:

    The justification for attacking them is that they need to be stopped before they cross the line.

    I'm not saying I agree with this line of reasoning, but the clear idea is that Iran doesn't currently have nuclear weapons.

  • How long will people be in denial that america is now a fascist regime? You all really going to wait until trumps third term until you come to terms with it, arent you?

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  • I thought it was a Supreme Court thing? What did Obama do?

  • How long will people be in denial that america is now a fascist regime? You all really going to wait until trumps third term until you come to terms with it, arent you?

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  • Are people in denial? It just seems like a commonly understood thing. I've talked to straight CNN consuming boomers and even they see it for what it is.

    For the record I'm in Canada so maybe it's just hard to see from the inside.

  • Me when people are cheering on Iran, a country that literally executes gay people

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  • I'm not allowed to be concerned with Israel fucking around with nuclear reactors and potentially creating a cherbobyl level meltdown illegally bombing them because Iran is a "bad guy"?

    What is this "good guy" "bad guy" politics you're talking about?

    I'm not 3 you can use a bigger word.

    I think the better way to analyze this situation is as "attacker" and "defender".

    Someone is starting a war, violating an international border, and instigating the first attacks. Who is it?

  • Me when people are cheering on Iran, a country that literally executes gay people

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  • Oh we're quoting the IAEA?

    Speaking on the final day of the IAEA Board of Governors meeting, Grossi warned that attacks on nuclear sites are in direct violation of the United Nations Charter, international law, and the Agency’s Statute.

    “I have repeatedly stated that nuclear facilities should not be targeted under any circumstances, as this could harm people and the environment. Such attacks have serious consequences for nuclear safety, security and safeguards, as well as regional and international peace and security,” Grossi stressed.

    -Rafael Grossi, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

    https://www.azernews.az/region/243249.html

  • Played (and finished) Call of Duty WWII Single Player. I have mixed feelings.

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  • Alright fair you are old. Just not because of COD WWII lmao.

  • Played (and finished) Call of Duty WWII Single Player. I have mixed feelings.

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  • COD WWII is my favorite multiplayer ever.

    Yes I’m old.

    Your favorite game is the fourteenth entry in the franchise. Calm down with the "old" lmfao.

  • Tool-Assisted Speedrunning the Boring Parts of Animal Crossing (GCN)

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  • This is the plot of Click

  • David Hogg will not run for DNC post again after party orders redo of vice chair elections

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  • Absolutely. Though, understanding him is a different question than voting for him.

  • Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

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  • I'm not as critical of his term as president because I don't think anyone really voted for him as president. He was the Trump blocker.

    I never expected him to be a competent or good president so I never put that expectation on him.

    His purpose was to be a transitionary president, keep Trump out of office for those 4 years while he spotlights and elevates the profile of exciting young democrats and guides the discussion towards hope and excitement in the upcoming primary, where a popular progressive candidate could spark a nationwide discussion and get everyone excited about the democrats for 8 more years.

    It seemed like everyone understood this when he was elected. I don't know what happened. I don't know if it was Biden's ego, or if his handlers manipulated him to keep a job, but his decision to run again was the utmost betrayal of democracy, singlehandedly decimated any possible democratic victory, and destroyed any chance of a positive legacy.

    All he had to do was just go away and his legacy would have been secure.

  • Authenticity

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  • A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. . . . American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. . . . This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. . . .Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. . . . In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    Dwight D Eisenhower's farewell address, 1961

    There was absolutely money in Ukraine. When you read "billions of dollars in weapons sent", if Ukraine received the weapons who do you think received the billion dollars?

  • Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

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  • You cant just keep spinning up new churches to suit your ideal version of god and expect credulity.

    You literally set the criteria as "the heaven Biden believes in". You're just arguing with yourself.

  • Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

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  • The heaven Biden believes in:

    "Forgive me father for I have sinned, I drone striked an entire region in the middle east to massive amounts of collateral damage and sent billions of dollars in weapons to Israel to be used against Palestinians."

    "Say 3 Hail Marys and one Our Father and you are forgiven."

  • The Outer Worlds 2 Can't Be Anti-Capitalist When It's Charging Us $80 To Play It

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  • That's fine. But then don't pretend you have an issue with entitlement or hypocracy.

  • The Outer Worlds 2 Can't Be Anti-Capitalist When It's Charging Us $80 To Play It

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  • Don't like the price a company is asking for for an entirely optional commodity? Don't fucking pay it. It's not that hard.

    Don't like the discussion a community is having for an entirely opinionated topic? Don't fucking comment. It's not that hard.

  • Well whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it

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  • Every good scientist believed in something supernatural at least once, then they tried to proof it (black holes f.e.).

    Science deals with things that are natural.

    If a black hole were assumed to be supernatural there'd be nothing to prove. The "then they tried to prove it" forces scientists to make theories which are falsifiable (ie in the natural world).

    If there's no test we can think of to disprove the idea, it's not a scientific idea.

    Atheism is unscientific. You can't proof the non existence of god(s),

    Theism is unscientific. You can't prove the existence of god(s).

    A-theism means absence of theism.

    Atheists aren't necessarily claiming to be able to prove god doesn't exist, they're saying they don't believe in a particular theism.

    therefore ruling out every possible of something supernatural is dumb.

    Agreed. Gnostic atheism seems dumb to me too.

    That's why I'm agnostic atheist. I don't believe in God, but I dont know if I'm right or not.

    There could be a god, and seeing evidence of such I'd change my mind.

    How many dimensions are there again?

    We don't know.

    Depends what you mean by dimension as well. Spacetime seems to have 4, 3 space and 1 time.

    Spacetime also appears to be an illusion. Whatever the answer is needs to be informed by quantum physical mechanisms we don't fully understand yet.

    Again, agnostic covers the "I don't know part".

    Has every scientist that believes in the string theory lost credibility?

    Basically yeah.

    Checkout this video, Dr. Collier covers a lot of points I was feeling as well.

    https://youtu.be/kya_LXa_y1E

    String theorists lied to everyone and massively overstated the evidence that it was true when it was still a young developing model.

    Now that it's become a dead-end it's tough to take back those promises.

  • Amid Rising Heat, Hajj Becomes Test of Endurance for Pilgrims and Saudi Arabia

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  • if I were there would be proof that’s why your example is a false equivalence.

    Not necessarily. This is lemmy, you're on a completely anonymous account. I wouldn't expect to have any proof.

    Maybe you just didn't get caught yet.

    If the Christian God exists, for example, there would be no way of knowing for certain

    I was willing to grant you the philosophical God argument, but if you want to evoke the Christian God you're now making a whole bunch of positive claims.

    Why don't we look at the evolutionary record and see whether all of humanity comes from Adam and Eve or if animals evolved from a common ancestor?

    We can look for evidence of a flood, or an exodus and see there is none.

    We can track the history of Yahweh, and how he was syncretized with El and Baal from Caananite faiths, and morphed over centuries from a local Storm/war God to the only God.

    The early Israelites engaged in polytheistic practices that were common across ancient Semitic religion, because the Israelite religion was a derivative of the Canaanite religion and included a variety of deities from it, including El, Asherah, and Baal. Initially a lesser deity among the Cannanite pantheon, Yahweh in later centuries became conflated with El; Yahweh took on El's place as head of the pantheon of the Israelite religion, El's consort Asherah, and El-linked epithets, such as ʾĒl Šadday (אֵל שַׁדַּי‎), came to be applied to Yahweh alone. Characteristics of other deities, such as Asherah and Baal, were also selectively absorbed in conceptions of Yahweh.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

    We can compare the contradictions between the behavior of the Old Testament God and Jesus to conclude like early Christians such as Marcion of Sinope Yahweh and Christianity are incompatible

    Study of the Hebrew Bible, along with received writings circulating in the nascent Church, led Marcion to conclude that many of the teachings of Jesus were incompatible with the actions of Yahweh, characterized as the belligerent god of the Hebrew Bible. Marcion responded by developing a ditheistic system of belief around the year 144.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope

    We can compare the Gospels and see where they copied stories from the Iliad/Odyssey.

    Odyssey Location Mark Location

    Athena descends like a bird 1.319-324 Spirit descends like a dove 2:1-2 Sailors volunteer to follow Athena 2.383-413 Fishermen volunteer to follow Jesus 1:16-20 Nestor’s feast for 4500 men 3.1-68 Jesus’s feast for 5000 men 6:30-44 Menelaus’s wedding feast 4.1-67 Jesus’s feast for 4000 8:1-9 Odysseus enters city behind mules 6.252-261 Jesus enters city on an ass 11:1-11 Alcinous’s prolific figs trees 7.112-121 Jesus curses unprolific fig tree 11:12-14 Blind Demodocus among sailors 8.471-473 Blind man at “House-of-fisherman” 8:22-26 Lotus-eating, forgetful comrades 9.62-107 Forgetful disciples at sea 8:19-21 Polyphemus the cave-dweller 9.105-525 Dangerous demoniac from caves 5:1-20 Aeolus’s bag of winds and gale 10.1-55 Jesus calms winds and sea 4:35-41 Cannibals at the harbor 10.76-136 Hostile Pharisees at the harbor 8:10-13 Following a water carrier to dinner 10.100-116 Following a water carrier to dinner 14:12-16 Circe turns soldiers into swine 10.135-465 Jesus sends demons into swine 5:1-20 Odysseus’s last supper before Hades 10.546-561 Jesus’s last super and Gethsemane 14:32-42 Death of young Elpenor 10.546-560 Flight of naked young man 14:43-52 Blind seer Tiresias 11.90-94 Blind seer Bartimaeus 10:46-52 Death of Agamemnon at a feast 11.409-430 Death of the Baptist at a feast 6:14-29 Burial of Elpenor at dawn 12.1-5 Young man at tomb at dawn 16:1-4 Eurylochus’s vow 12.298-305 Peter’s vow 14:26-31 Eurylochus’s broken vow 12.367-396 Peter’s broken vow 14:66-72 Eumaeus’s Phoenician nurse 15.417-491 Syrophoenician woman 7:24-30 Odysseus’s transfiguration 16.172-301 Jesus’s transfiguration 9:2-13 Suitors plot to kill Telemachus 16.383-385 Vinedressers kill the beloved son 12:1-12 Conspiracy to kill Telemachus 17.182-213 Conspiracy to kill Jesus 14:10-11 Penelope’s hospitality 17.534-547 Generous widow at temple 12:41-42 Irus the beggar 18.1-94 Barabbas the brigand 15:6-15 Telemachus’s amazement at house 19.35-43 Disciples’ amazement at temple 13:1-2 Penelope’s request for a sign 19.102-271 Disciples’ request for a sign 13:3-8 Prophetic oak at Dodona 19.296-307 Prophetic fig tree 13:28-31 Eurycleia washes her master 19.370-575 Woman anoints Jesus 14:3-9 Eurycleia’s recognition of Odysseus 19.474-486 Peter’s recognition of the Messiah 8:27-30 Odysseus slays suitors in his house 22.17-86 Jesus expels merchants from temple 11:15-19 Contested authority over the house 22.221-233 Contested authority over the temple 11:27-33 Odysseus hacks to death evil slave 22.474-477 Bystander slices off a slave’s ear 14:43-5

    https://testimonia.pl/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/MacDonald.Mimesis.pdf

    Or also where they contradict each other

    If you spend enough time focusing on the truth of this you will eventually conclude you cannot prove your belief like they cannot prove theirs so neither side has anything demonstrable.

    I don't think theist Christians would agree with that though. Quoting Tertullian:

    We do not worship your gods, because we know that there are no such beings. This, therefore, is what you should do: you should call on us to demonstrate their non-existence, and thereby prove that they have no claim to adoration; for only if your gods were truly so, would there be any obligation to render divine homage to them. And punishment even were due to Christians, if it were made plain that those to whom they refused all worship were indeed divine. But you say, They are gods. We protest and appeal from yourselves to your knowledge; let that judge us; let that condemn us, if it can deny that all these gods of yours were but men.

    https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0301.htm

    When it comes to a philosophical creator god I agree with your statement, this view describes agnostic atheism.