I refuse to believe that which I've seen no evidence for.
So long as it is more convenient to sarcastically quip about how you're right instead of explaining it, I will struggle to be convinced by your words.
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Sorry, but you are suggesting that the best strategy possible to stop the genocide is to be nice to the person committing the genocide
No, I suggested we adopt the best strategy regardless of what it is.
You said that even if the best strategy possible is to be nice, you wouldn't consider doing do.
My character was straight up an actual poacher cause the best way to make money is selling creatures to that lady in Hogsmeade.
I mean.......do we want to tear it down?
Pretty sure we do.
Some things are for you, other things are NOT for you. Letting both exist is an option.
So you agree it's good Fortnite now exists on iOS? Apple users get more options?
Great, I'll make sure to report you to the mods if your openly admitting to acting in bad faith.
Feel free to do that, if I've broken the rules they should remove my comment. I didnt realize this was getting so personal so I will take this as the end of the convo, even across the other threads, just letting you know so you don't waste time replying to those.
It would only be a compliment if you were trying to capture the flaw in liberalism.
I was.
Again, I appreciate the compliment. Take care.
When my goal is to describe the flaws of liberalism succinctly and you say "You've captured the flaw in liberalism extremely succinctly." I have a hard time taking that as an insult, ngl.
Yes, I'm glad you understand how a discussion works. Presumably you then don't want people to believe what you say?
Is this how you want the conversation to go? Are we gonna both just play dumb and ask loaded questions back and forth?
Is it?
Yeah? (You called me a Socialist earlier)
Because capitalism has rolled over the top of you none the less.
How exactly did you expect me to have predefeated the system I was born into?
That's why, even though 'your guard is up', you can't do anything about it; because you're just a random person with no power
You're not pointing out anything new to me.
That's because we communicate using words, we can't just directly transmit pure concepts to each other. If people can't understand your labels they can't understand you concepts.
EXACTLY!!! Yes! Love this.
So not as socialism.
No, as primitive Libertarianism. It's right there.
I'm sure hoping you don't think mob rule by bands of genocidal settler colonists is socialism?
You told me my definition of liberalism implies the US wasn't liberal.
I agreed and quoted a marxist who described the US as primitive Libertarianism.
Now you think I'm saying the US has secretly been socialist this whole time?
Then my comment argues you shouldn't.
Hey I'm sorry. I just gave your comment an actual read and only the first paragraph I initially read was bad faith patronizing.
In the rest you did bring up points worth responding to so I apologize and I will do that in a bit.
Just keep in mind I may actually have some knowledge in history and just might be able to back up claims I make.
Exactly, thank you great point. Are you starting to agree these aren't very "liberal" actions so maybe the Republicans and Democrats aren't so liberal after all?
if you're just gonna continue to be this childish, then I have nothing else to talk about.
Respectfully, that's where I tried to leave it 2 comments ago
And since you're gonna read this, like it or not, your definition of being a liberal has no basis in reality
It's not about liking or not liking it.
If you're in a different reality than me, there's not much we're going to be able to say. I'd rather spend my energy on people in the same reality
You can cry all you want about how capitalism and liberalism as somehow separate, it won't change reality.
:'(
Most Republicans also believe in those things
The Republicans are abducting citizens to El Salvadorian death camps...
Social rights are great, but you're ignoring cost of living and material conditions to paint there being more progress than there has been.
Financially, the average worker has seen the cost of food, housing and transportation increase massively with inflation but wages haven't kept up.
The 2008 banking crisis and COVID 19 have only pushed this even further.
83% of statistics are made up. Here's the original comment:
I'd imagine if one genuinely cares about stopping the genocide they'd be exactly as civil as they'd strategically need to be.
In the scenario where celebrating Bidens death is strategic I actually made an argument pro celebrating his death.
It would require bad reading comprehension to interpret it differently than what it literally says.
they are responsible for a genocide
So then shouldn't we do everything strategically possible to oppose the genocide?
Why is "we should adopt the best strategy possible to stop genocide" so offensive to you?
He didn't, and it's bad faith of your to say he did.
if they did it again, you'd find some new procedural nitpick to justify not responding to it.
Then that's it. If I'm bad faith the discussion needs to end.
If you understand why they might not want to type up a long comment only for the other person to find some nitpick then you 100% understand why I ignored that one specific comment and replied to every single other comment on this thread.
Including to you actually multiple times to which one comment you replied
You've captured the flaw in liberalism extremely succinctly.
Thank you for the compliment. It's funny to see you reply to me in so many different threads I feel like Schrodingers faith right now. Am I good faith? Bad faith? Who knows.
Thank you!
Letting the guard down to capitalism is a core part of liberalism. In order to not let your guard down to capitalism, you would have to abandon liberalism.
Yes I understand you want me to believe that.
I have my guard up and describe myself as a liberal. You see my guard up and say I'm not a liberal.
At the end of the day these are just labels. Losing our minds at someone describing themselves as "socialist" or "liberal" is not worth it to me if we agree on the concepts.
So many people here seem to be more focused on the label than the concept.
To make what point?
Read the original context. It all makes sense if you read what I was quote responding to.
You said, to paraphrase cause I don't want to go find it, "if liberalism means that then the US isn't liberal" or something, so I quoted a Marxist who described the development of the frontier less as a liberal democracy and more as primitive Libertarianism.
"Rights of the individual", "liberty", "consent of the governed", "political equality" and "equality of the law" are meangless buzzwords that should be ignored is an interesting angle.
Then why did you claim I can't see it?