I think it's really a failure (or sabotage) of public education. People just don't know things, and sometimes because no one told them. Or didn't show them in a way that resonates emotionally.
Like, you can tell people that there was polio but that's just like your opinion man.
I partly blame YouTube et al for letting garbage proliferate on their platforms, too.
Those people would be unemployed, or (WAY more generously) need to be retrained and transferred to other jobs.
I don't find "the orphan grinder technicians would need to find new jobs" a very compelling argument, but I imagine the orphan grinder technicians and their families do.
We should probably have basic income and stronger social programs, too. But we have a republican party that would rather die of measles than see their outgroup have one iota of comfort.
Also, "it would be expensive to improve our quality of life, so let's leave the nightmare in place" is a bonkers view.
I’m skeptical that cost overall is a good argument in favor of single payer, at least in the short/medium term.
But maybe this is the important part. An argument for who? I think most of the people who oppose single payer health care are doing so for emotional reasons, so facts and charts won't compel them. They might lie to you and themselves about how the money doesn't work out, but those are lies.
When this comes up, which isn't that often, I typically ask them where the line is. Like, presumably there's something a company could do that's so evil that they wouldn't support it. What is it, for them? Crushing babies live on TV? That's probably too far, right? So then we can sort of do a binary search between that line and where we are, and try to find what is too much for them. I suspect for many people it's "am I personally, immediately, harmed by this, in a way I can't rationalize?"
I don't know why it's so hard to get people to care about things. It's not like twitter is some vital service. But people are just like, "meh, it's funny." What tepid slop do these people have where their soul should be?
I'm pretty sure Wikipedia isn't a government entity and thus not subject to whatever their fever dream is. Republicans are the worst, and many of them are quite stupid as well
I went to one. Not seeing a lot of coverage on my corners of the Internet.
Oddly there one one counter protestor. She wasn't white and neither was her camera guy. I think she was some sort of grifter - she was interviewing people and I think she was looking for outrage bait for right wing duds to froth over. Organizers had a deescalation team follow her to warn people off from talking to her
I think "cultural values" are a better mechanism for that. Like america teaches that capitalism and individualism are good values. Anyone raised here gets a lot of that, but it's not an innate property of being from Ohio
I think it's really a failure (or sabotage) of public education. People just don't know things, and sometimes because no one told them. Or didn't show them in a way that resonates emotionally.
Like, you can tell people that there was polio but that's just like your opinion man.
I partly blame YouTube et al for letting garbage proliferate on their platforms, too.