«hallowed be thy Name, thy Kingdom come»
The world is ugly
We(sterners) have been the aggressors/‘bad guys’ for too many decades. We’re still the main(~only) obstacle to ‘world peace’/‘a union of diversities’
♪All we are saaying… ♬(, are we even trying ? we could/should/must protect them&us)

  • 11 Posts
  • 8 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: August 12th, 2023

help-circle













  • I agree, but what i clumsily pointed at is the lack of debate, i see three options :

    • We could already back then prove without a doubt that the elections weren’t rigged, and couldn’t have been, but that’s not the case. If it was possible, then we could’ve reminded them of the safety of our mechanism, but even then we should still invite opponents so they can point at imperfections in order to improve it ;
    • We can’t currently prove that the elections weren’t rigged, and that’s a problem that we should acknowledge if we want to prevent such refusal to accept an electoral defeat in the future, it’s alarming that we don’t intend to change anything, we must be more re-assured that rigging elections is impossible, and not double-down with machine voting instead of a cctv which could record every single vote opened and be inside the box as well and broadcast live, that’s an example. There have also been proofs of multiple votes under a false identity, and i wrote once a long text on how we could ensure a safety, but my point is that these solutions exist and that you’re not taking the steps to ensure an impossibility of cheating, i could say that it’s suspicious but i’ll only say that it’s a way to ensure more doubts for the next elections ;
    • And the third possibility would be that we’ll never be able to prove that elections aren’t rigged, but i don’t believe in this, one would need to not have thought about the solutions in order to believe this.

  • If i’m taking the first link i found, here’s the accusations :

    • conspiring to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power
    • those who attempted to undermine the workings of American democracy will be held criminally accountable
    • conspired before, during, and after the siege of the Capitol to use force against their own government to prevent the peaceful transfer of power
    • seditious conspiracy
    • To prepare for the attack on the Capitol, Tarrio and the other leaders of the Ministry of Self Defense established a chain of command, chose a time and place for their attack, and intentionally recruited others who would follow their top-down leadership and who were prepared to engage in physical violence if necessary.
    • At 2:11 p.m., Pezzola smashed open a window, allowing the first rioters to enter the Capitol as Biggs and those with him entered close behind.
    • Tarrio’s conduct constituted an official act of terrorism
    • In the 31 months since Jan. 6, 2021, more than 1,106 individuals have been arrested

    Feel free to read the article to see if i forgot something, it wasn’t informative. No one can honestly say that they were going to overtake the country, and yet.

    The second link is entirely on the charges but is even less informative. Believing that they had any chance to overthrow the United States of America is crazy talk, yet lives were/are ruined while everyone claps as if it make sense. Please find me more arguments from your side if you believe to be on the right side.


  • Or they would have exchanged their arguments like the civilised people we’re supposed to represent. If they killed your representatives that would be worth a decade or more in jail i suppose, but they didn’t, they simply entered a building and are accused of having attempted to overthrow the government, an accusation that no one can take seriously(, and yet).
    Russia, China, or the many other sanctioned countries, can rejoice on their medias, who are either banned or not read by the “free world”, but otherwise, i don’t see how they could profit from it. More importantly, they wouldn’t be glad that their enemy has problems if we were allied, this world f*cking stinks, and shouldn’t.


  • five Proud Boys convicted for some of the most serious crimes

    You’re all fucking crazy, they didn’t have any power to stage a coup or topple democracy you morons. They simply entered a building !
    You can’t all sincerely believe that they were going to achieve anything by entering the Capitol, the historical place to have manifestations ?
    Political prisoners aren’t only people whose ideology you agree with, you’re sending people who didn’t hurt anyone ^(o.m.g., he pepper sprayed a cop) to almost a decade in jail, sometimes fathers&mothers, am i living in a parallel universe ?