And how do you think unions come about? Historically it’s by setting things on fire.

So why bring it up? It has nothing to do with the comment and nothing to do with the topic of the original post.

Really? Trump mentioning that most nato members do not meet the required defense spending undermines nato.

As a member of a NATO military that doesn’t meet the targets for spending, I agree this doesn’t undermine NATO, it’s just the truth that we need to start pulling more weight monetarily.

BUT that’s not the point and you missed key details about what he said that absolutely DOES undermine NATO, such as:

“I said: ‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’… ‘No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay.’”

So you’re showing that you either didn’t read the article, didn’t understand the article or are being willfully ignorant of the article.

That’s nice of you to say. What do you suggest he does about it? I’m so sick of these spineless, yellow-bellied Internet commenters saying that something should be done about it and suggesting precisely fuck all. OFFER A SOLUTION, ALREADY, YOU COWARDS!

Edit: Mocking tone aside, I’m serious, what can Jens realistically do? Kick the USA out of NATO? That’s Trump’s goal anyways. The issues with Trump are an internal American issue that can’t be fixed by Norwegian politicians unfortunately.

That’s one way to look at it, if you’re looking to downplay the human impact. The way I look at is these companies had a short sighted hiring spree and now thousands of people are without income and can’t just get a new job as the industry is laying off everywhere. That seems like a reasonable source of panic for the people with no income and not a lot of prospects.