My guy, you should stop feeding the troll. I can keep coming up with bullshit indefinitely. The intent of my original facetious reply was to point out how ridiculous it is to react to a clearly ridiculous and unrealistic suggestion as if it was the most seriously considered expression of an actual policy suggestion ever. But it turns out some people just can’t not take every single thing that is said with the utmost seriousness.
Of course a nuked country will be a nuked country. That’s beside the point, moving the goalposts.
That’s the point
No, they can return after the country has been glassed.
Yes, but in reality nobody is going to nuke anybody, and certainly not because a random internet user vents their frustration at the situation with a clearly metaphorical and exaggerated request. Your reply was an overly literal reading of the comment, like replying to “go fuck yourself” with “…you realize that’s not possible, right?”
I simply replied to your literal interpretation with a literal interpretation of my own.
Sure you can, move the civilians out first.
They didn’t say anything about civilians
My main problem with STAR is that it seems to me like you should always give the highest available score to all candidates you don’t mind winning and give the other candidates a zero, because you know there are people giving the highest possible score to your dispreferred candidates and you want to offset their score total as much as possible.
So I feel like strategic voting would mostly trivialize STAR into a form of approval voting, which would still overly benefit the powers-that-be since most people would approve of the established candidates while fewer people would approve of the other candidates, who might be able to eke out a majority in ranked choice voting since they might be higher ranked than the established candidates.
But maybe I’m just not seeing the other strategic dimensions to giving the middle scores to some candidates.
Edit: The link by @themeatbridge is a very good explanation of the benefits of STAR over ranked choice voting! I for one am convinced.
I wish Russians thought like you do.
They are arguing in bad faith and they know it. The peace-absolutism is in a long tradition of pro-Soviet propaganda, where the only obstacle to eternal world peace was countries (particularly those opposing the Soviet Union) having any military at all. (Soviet Union was of course allowed to have a strong military to “protect” itself from Western, particularly US, “aggression”).
All of the calls for “peace” and “diplomacy” now are exactly the same: calls to stop actively resisting Russian aggression, and in the longer term to destroy your capability of being able to resist in the first place. And, if possible, to simply roll over to all Russian demands because you aren’t being “diplomatic” otherwise.
War, in this propagandistic view, is only caused by the country being invaded defending itself; after all, if they simply allowed Russia to take over, there would be no war. In the best case, the situation would have been solved through “diplomacy”, i.e. simply agreeing to all Russian demands. That way war would have been avoided, right?
And because no sensible person wants war, the leaders saying “no” to Russian demands (and who therefore must not want diplomacy, right?) must want war either because they’re corrupt and want to profit off of the war, because they’re “russophobic” “nazis” who “unreasonably” hate Russia, or because they’re being used as pawns by someone else, most likely the US. Because no one wants war, and therefore should be willing to conduct diplomacy over any questions (i.e. roll over to Russian demands) if they were not being manipulated in some way. And that is why poor Russia is “forced” to invade countries because of the US and the West, because being US pawns they are not willing to be diplomatic (i.e. agree to all Russian demands).
Anyone in the West supporting the invaded country is therefore a “warmongerer” if they do not support “diplomacy” (= letting Russia have whatever they want). Because there would be no war if Russia could just do whatever they want with no resistance.
No EU leader wants to have any piece of that shithole of a country.
War is insane, so it is unfortunate that Russia has unleashed it again. But fortunately we are working on helping Ukraine stop Russia from killing more people and bringing more destruction to Ukraine.
Edit: I love how pro-Russian shills are downvoting me without being able to give a single real reason why one should blame this war on anyone else but Russia.
If the West wants war so bad, why are Western countries dithering so hard about giving equipment to Ukraine? Shouldn’t that be profitable for them? Shouldn’t the US congress approve the aid to Ukraine in a heartbeat if all they want is to enrich themselves if war is so profitable?
Why is it okay for Russia to profit from war, but not for people trying to stop Russia from expanding their war profiteering? Does every European country need to become a target for Russian war profiteering?
Who was it that attacked Ukraine? Regardless of any past ambitions, even if the west “wants war”, would there be any war in Europe at the present moment if Russia had not invaded Ukraine?
Yes, we know that Russia invaded Ukraine because of a mentally ill game by a dude greedy for wealth and power. And now we unfortunately are put in the position of having to stop his quest for wealth and power lest it consume the whole of Europe. Or do you think that the guy hungry for wealth and power will stop pursuing those things because of diplomacy?
It’s difficult to be diplomatic when the other guy is actively attacking you.
Particularly as Russian diplomacy tends to be, “do what we say and we might not hurt you more for the time being”.
I’m sure Russia will withdraw from Ukraine to prevent such an eventuality from happening.
Sure then, if you want to call it that. But did it work? Were countries not invaded by the US thanks to Swedish appeasement?
What I’m saying is, if China and Russia truly cared about what the US is doing, they could choose to sanction the US and the West just like the West is doing to Russia right now. Like you say, China throwing their weight in would certainly have an influence.
Sure they would, but not as much as Russia doing the same but much closer to Sweden.
I first thought this was a bad idea by Paypal but you opened my eyes