I’ve gotten so tired of the non-stop reddit/lemmy/mastodon/threads drama I pulled the plug on all recurring donations for the foreseeable future. Thanks to threads the fedverse is starting the reddit style drama cycles and I’m pretty much over trying to sort through it.
Threads hasn’t even implemented ActivityPub yet, and there’s no guarantee it will do so in the future. Or even that it will implement it in a way that links with lemmy.
I personally haven’t seen a post from lemmy.world admins pledging to block threads. Even if you do, take it with a grain of salt.
I’ve personally blocked communities and users that talk about reddit/threads all the time. It’s cool that they have a space to do it, I’m just not super into those topics right now and can always unblock them later.
Thank you.
^ blocked this fuckin guy
Deleted my first post, as I’m confusing myself. No official post has been on lemmy.world regarding the upcoming fiasco. However, the mastodon.world account on Mastodon has stated that they will NOT be defederating, and will take a “wait and see” stance.
https://mastodon.world/@mwadmin/110654590632768079
Bear in mind that mastodon.world is hosted and administered by the same person as lemmy.world. They didn’t specifically say that lemmy.world will have the same standpoint, but I hope not. Even though I am very new to the Fediverse, I already view the .world servers as a home, and I would hate to leave. I do believe that Meta is a known bad actor. EDITED: I’m torn over the whole thing, but I know I want nothing to do with Meta.
I’ll be watching closely, and if I see any META THREADS bullshit show up on this instance’s community titles / comments I’m gonna send a strongly worded message. Then I’m going to find another fucking instance to move my account to.
I’ve already moved my Mast account to an instance that has pledged to block threads. I was a regular donator to various mast/fedverse instances until this, all donations are off until further notice. I’m just tired of the constant interference and bombardment of needless bullshit into what should be no more than a simple but evolved Usenet or BBS type service.
https://www.distractify.com/p/does-threads-allow-nsfw
I’m thinking the answer will be “no federation with threads”.
It would be ideal, but see the aforementioned corporate level no-speak reference so far. At least in this situation, it’s more than just Ublock Origin, PiHole and various filters passively preventing monetizing me, my donation cancellations are on that list until a definite no is posted by Ruud.
The same admin with lemmy.world has posted this on mastodon
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You can always have 2 homes. I made this one today and it was as hard as just following back the same communities my account on .world did
No post has been made that I know of. Mastodon’s CEO laid out his stance in the post below and I would hope Lemmy would follow with them.
Lots of echo chambering going on in here about EEE and Meta profiting off of everything. In reality, they can scrape data like anyone else, the profit from such small communities is negligible, and defederating meta would only hurt those that defederated because way more users than people here think will want to see and manage Threads while also not needing a Threads account to avoid the data hell that it is.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
Sure Facebook’s parent company Meta can scrape the content already because it’s public but without federating their users cant bring in their toxic Instagram mentality into our places.
defederating meta would only hurt those that defederated
That’s a bit too simplistic. Defederation has many consequences, some subtle. It depends on personal preferences wether the sum is beneficial. Specifically, some people see it as an advantage to not see content coming from Threads, and not share theirs with Threads.
way more users than people here think will want to see and manage Threads
I’m doubtful, but maybe. We don’t have numbers on this.
We also don’t need to reach a consensus. Maybe there is demand for instances which are defederated and demand for instances which are federated. People can choose where to have an account (which includes the option to have more than one account), people can try to inform themselves about an instance’s policy, and they can try to influence an instance. This is all fine, fediverse working as intended.
I can foresee a situation where lots of lemmings will have two accounts.
@TheBenCrazy I am actually dumb here but feels like your argument is like this :
“The thief can still take your stuffs even if you lock your door, and in fact it would actually be more beneficials if you just welcome the thief with open arm and not lock your door at all.”The worry about EEE is actually not my primary concern at the moment. And it’s not data collection either, though I hate what Meta is doing there.
I’m not interested in Threads “content” on my front page here. And boy will it ever be all over the “All” page thanks to Threads users outnumbering all of the Fediverse by many magnitudes. The poor algorithm is not going to show you any new Lemmy content anymore with all the engagement Threads posts is going to get.
Then there are the comments in communities here. If you’ve felt happy that this community has better atmosphere and discussions than the dreg you’d be served on Reddit, just wait until we open the door for hundreds of millions of Facebook commenters.
I love the community that is building on Lemmy. If I wanted to participate in the community on Meta I’d be on Instagram or Facebook or Threads.
But I don’t. That’s why I’m here.
Facebook can bootstrap their product with federated content made by users who are in the fediverse because they don’t want to support a company like Facebook. By not defederating, you would be helping Facebook every time you post a comment or make a post because you would be giving Facebook free content to further their for-profit goals.
There should be a way to block or hide specific topics, like it can be done on Mastodon. The only way I see is to unsubscribe from communities/magazines where the Threads topic is or can be discussed.
What does this mean? What’s going on?
Lemmy.ml announced proactive defederation from Threads, so you can donate to direct development.
