How about this instead? We vote for Biden to ensure that former President Orange does not get elected. Then, and only then, do we try to get Biden removed from office for his failure to protect Palestinian civilians.
Allowing Orange to win would make things worse for both Palestine and Ukraine.
“Now is not the time” is the slogan used all the time.
Yeah, like 3 months ago was the time (to make sure neither one got the nomination). Now is too late to do anything other than vote for a privileged white guy, way passed retirement, that doesn’t mind a little genocide (I feel this accurately describes both candidates).
Been hearing that for decades and been hearing ‘no but its for real this time’ for about 12 years now. Reminds me of a quote,
“A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.”
They tell themselves they want to do the right thing in every moment but the current moment.
I keep telling people this when they try to stand on the ‘You must be so privileged to not support Biden’. Biden is losing the Black communities faster than other communities, especially the women. What does that tell us?
Not enough people show up for primaries?
We didn’t have a primary. There’s never a (real) primary for a sitting president. It’s just ceremonial, like the Congressional Mace.
Biden wasn’t any better of a candidate today than he was when getting the nomination 4 years ago.
You do know like half the country hasn’t had their primaries yet and they already called the race over. So I’m just not supposed to get to decide?
Democracy! /s
Nice to see coverage on this, Sabby Sabs has been talking about this for a good amount of time.
For those interested:
Is Trump Gaining Black Voters? [31:18 | Apr 15 2024 | Sabby Sabs]
https://lemmy.world/post/14422468
Not to forget to mention some of the support from HBCUs Trump may recieve.
She mentions article below early on in 31min video on black support:
Biden losing support among Black voters in swing states: Survey [Lauren Sforza | 04/11/24 | The Hill]
For some, the conflagration 6,000 miles away has already changed their vote, edging out domestic concerns such as the economy, inflation and crime. Others say that the war in the Middle East, which has already cost thousands of lives and has a region on the brink of famine, mirrors other tragedies afflicting people of color — and that Biden’s support for what they see as a moral disaster should have consequences at the ballot box.
Where these voters ultimately land could play an outsize role in who occupies the White House next year. Pennsylvania is one of a handful of battleground states that both Republicans and Democrats see as pivotal to winning the presidency. In 2020, Biden won the state by just over 80,000 votes, including a 4-to-1 ratio in heavily Black Philadelphia. But there are signs that the coalition that elected him is fragmenting.
But as the Gaza war has raged on, Biden and other Democrats have faced protesters at virtually all of their public events, over the Palestinian death toll. In Scranton on Tuesday, after Biden gave a campaign speech on tax policy, the president’s motorcade was met by protesters chanting, “Biden Biden, you can’t hide. We charge you with genocide,” and “Welcome home, Scranton Joe — make sure Gazans have a home also.” Demonstrators also shouted at Biden as he visited his childhood home.
About 9 in 10 Black voters in Pennsylvania and other key states picked Biden over Trump in 2020, according to exit polls and comparable surveys, but a March Wall Street Journal poll of voters in seven swing states found that 68 percent of Black registered voters would “definitely” or “probably” vote for Biden in the 2024 election, while 20 percent said they were likely to vote for Trump. Numerous national and state polls this year have found similar results.
In 2015, she and other founding members of Black Lives Matter issued a statement of solidarity with Palestinians. “We don’t have to take a lesser-of-two-evils approach,” Abdullah said. “Lesser of two evils is still evil.”
Hmm, I really don’t like that Biden isn’t doing enough to help Gaza, so I think I’ll just vote for the guy who wants to scale up the genocide instead.
/SHmm, genocide is unpopular but I can speak vaguely about the other guy somehow making it worse instead of listening to voters, so I can continue supporting genocide which I love doing more than winning elections.
/the democrat strategy
Oh yeah well trump certainly loves black people.
Are Black Americans Russian shills now too?
last time i checked Biden isn’t the President of Gaza… Biden doesn’t “handle” Gaza… he is “handling” the United States of America the way it should be handled… fuck Gaza, fuck Israel… they can all kill each other, that’s all they know how to do… they can take each other back to the Bronze Age if that’s what they want, i don’t give a fuck…
