Probably not, historically the villain in that story will definitely be Netanyahu… he’d likely get supporting actor credits at best.
I disagree that he’ll have a good legacy though, his economic legacy will likely be dwarfed by his lack of action to stop the Supreme Court. History is rarely fair.
I genuinely don’t get how “Trump would have been forced to do the same though” even works as an excuse.
Wouldn’t it be better off if biden risked his career to actually try and prevent the genocide from continuing? Wouldn’t it be better if he even took a small risk to try and actually prevent Netanyahu from crossing one of his many lines? Wouldn’t it be better if we learned from our mistakes in WWII and instead of appeasing the fascists, we did something about fascism? Netanyahu will not be pleased with only Gaza.
To paint it as a necessity, ie “trump would have been forced to do the same,” is genuinely disgusting. This removes all agency the person in power had when they made the decisions that led up to this, and it removes the agency they have to fix this. To say the “most powerful man in the world” was forced to aid and abet a genocide is such a bullshit argument and I really wish people would just realize that.
I think it’s the worst kind of pragmatism to consider it a necessity of geopolitics to just casually cleanse a people. That sort of thing is how you make the evils of this world palatable for people on the news.
Yeah I know it sucks but that’s how the government of USA ticks. Also I am not a US resident so your rant sadly was wasted. If you are one though, be the change you want to see.
Should I send my PayPal details or is there some other payment method you prefer. I can even show you which bits are Gaza and which bits are the West Bank - it’ll be educational!
Or the fact that he fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal so hard he basically gave the Taliban a billion dollars in weapons, military vehicles and other materiel.
Okay hold on. The equipment being left behind is not something that was avoidable. That’s the entire reason we signed it over to the ANA. Anything we actually cared about was already out of the country or air shippable and ready to go. Just on a logistics note, we spent 20 years shipping equipment into the country. There was no way it was all getting removed in 6 months.
And the only way he could have stopped the cascade failure was to foresee it and rapidly deploy several light infantry brigades. On day 1, January 21st, 2020. The Taliban were in a go mode from the day Trump lost the election because they were afraid Biden would go back on the “deal”. That’s why there was a cascade failure. They got to spend 7 months herding sympathetic politicians into line. And any attempt to walk away from Trump’s folly would have triggered their main force coming over the border.
So without being psychic, and without super powers to teleport years worth of logistics, this was always the way it was going to happen. Which is the entire reason Trump put the date past the election.
I dunno, most people are probably going to remember his decisions on Gaza much more strongly.
Probably not, historically the villain in that story will definitely be Netanyahu… he’d likely get supporting actor credits at best.
I disagree that he’ll have a good legacy though, his economic legacy will likely be dwarfed by his lack of action to stop the Supreme Court. History is rarely fair.
Trump would have been forced to do the same though. It’s in the US governments blood to support Israel unconditionally (it’s their project after all).
I genuinely don’t get how “Trump would have been forced to do the same though” even works as an excuse.
Wouldn’t it be better off if biden risked his career to actually try and prevent the genocide from continuing? Wouldn’t it be better if he even took a small risk to try and actually prevent Netanyahu from crossing one of his many lines? Wouldn’t it be better if we learned from our mistakes in WWII and instead of appeasing the fascists, we did something about fascism? Netanyahu will not be pleased with only Gaza.
To paint it as a necessity, ie “trump would have been forced to do the same,” is genuinely disgusting. This removes all agency the person in power had when they made the decisions that led up to this, and it removes the agency they have to fix this. To say the “most powerful man in the world” was forced to aid and abet a genocide is such a bullshit argument and I really wish people would just realize that.
I think it’s the worst kind of pragmatism to consider it a necessity of geopolitics to just casually cleanse a people. That sort of thing is how you make the evils of this world palatable for people on the news.
Yeah I know it sucks but that’s how the government of USA ticks. Also I am not a US resident so your rant sadly was wasted. If you are one though, be the change you want to see.
I’m well aware that the us government sucks since I live under it.
But saying “that’s just how it works” is a thought terminating cliche.
Meh, he’ll probably be remembered more like Truman or Eisenhower
If Trump wins, Buchanan is more likely.
I’ll give you $10 if you can point to Palestine on a map.
Should I send my PayPal details or is there some other payment method you prefer. I can even show you which bits are Gaza and which bits are the West Bank - it’ll be educational!
Just say you don’t care and move on, coward.
Or the fact that he fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal so hard he basically gave the Taliban a billion dollars in weapons, military vehicles and other materiel.
Okay hold on. The equipment being left behind is not something that was avoidable. That’s the entire reason we signed it over to the ANA. Anything we actually cared about was already out of the country or air shippable and ready to go. Just on a logistics note, we spent 20 years shipping equipment into the country. There was no way it was all getting removed in 6 months.
And the only way he could have stopped the cascade failure was to foresee it and rapidly deploy several light infantry brigades. On day 1, January 21st, 2020. The Taliban were in a go mode from the day Trump lost the election because they were afraid Biden would go back on the “deal”. That’s why there was a cascade failure. They got to spend 7 months herding sympathetic politicians into line. And any attempt to walk away from Trump’s folly would have triggered their main force coming over the border.
So without being psychic, and without super powers to teleport years worth of logistics, this was always the way it was going to happen. Which is the entire reason Trump put the date past the election.
Gotta love every armchair general that incorrectly thinks they know more than the difference between their asshole and a hole in the ground.
Yep. Forever and ever, we’ll remember him as Genocide Joe. That is his name now and for the rest of all time. What a legacy.