• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      If Biden doesn’t ignore it entirely, he’ll call it an accident or whatever Netanyahu-senpai tells him to say.

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        Q — outside an Israeli — or outside the Israel Embassy. Was the President aware of his death? Did he have any sort of response to it?

        MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Yes, the President is aware. And we can — I can say that it is — obviously, is a — it’s a horrible tragedy, and our thoughts are with the family of the servicemember at — during this — I could — we can’t even imagine this hor- — horrible, difficult time.

        Just thoughts and prayers. No acknowledgement of his reasons why, no policy change, just more weapons sent for Israel’s genocide

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          You really don’t want to have policy be swayed by suicides. It encourages more people to kill themselves.

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            You really don’t want to have policy be swayed by suicides.

            Yes I do.

            I don’t care what method brings about the end of the genocide.

            It encourages more people to kill themselves.

            Yeah, if you stop a genocide thanks to people self immolating then people will start doing it to try and get weed legal next…

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              Yes I do.

              Then you’re letting sentiment drive you rather than reason.

              And just to be really fucking clear: I’m against the genocide that is being inflicted on the people of Gaza. But I refuse to allow that someone’s opinion should be given more weight than mine just because they mutilate or kill themselves. Their mental disorder doesn’t confer moral superiority, it detracts from it.

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                Then you’re letting sentiment drive you rather than reason.

                So you wouldn’t want the genocide to end if it came at the cost of someone killing themselves? Why?

                Is the entire Palestinian population who are suffering a genocide worth less than a western life to you?

                But I refuse to allow that someone’s opinion should be given more weight than mine just because they mutilate or kill themselves.

                His opinion holds more weight than yours because he is right and you are attacking a martyr rather than focusing on the cause he was martyrd for.

                Their mental disorder doesn’t confer moral superiority, it detracts from it.

                Your insistence that they must be mentally ill/disorderd doesn’t negate moral superiority, it only further reveals your apologist mindset.

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          For reasons that should be obvious an individual protest, no matter how extreme, will never be a factor in foreign policy decisions.

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              The true factor is that Israel is a solid foothold for the US in the Middle East long term.

              Israel is also currently acting as a testing ground for weapons and feeding the military industrial complex information and funds.

              Don’t absolve Biden and the US of our level of culpability by reducing us to followers led astray by Netanyahu (not saying it’s your intention to do this, but a side effect), this genocide is entirely supported by the US, we aren’t just riding along.

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                The true factor is that Israel is a solid foothold for the US in the Middle East long term.

                Well, that’s the excuse.

                Don’t absolve Biden and the US of our level of culpability by reducing us to followers led astray by Netanyahu

                Led astray? No. Enthusiastically complicit.