Goat and PugJesus take on DB0 ADMINS

We're not the ones denying the cultural genocide of the Uyghurs or the holodomor

We were expecting it as well to happen at some point. There was no love lost between us and the libs during the US election period, and there's always been a lot of peeps hating us for our principled stances on copyrights, electoralism and "left unity". I think it was a bit of an assumption on your part to think that just because we were arguing some times with campists, we weren't also arguing with turbolibs.

Funnily PJ did show his hand, by claiming out that he has anarchists that he gets along with. And then pointed out to people who just discovered anarchism less 1 year ago. Funny how further radicalism pushes people away from liberalism, innit? :D

And then say we're the assholes for defending ourselves from the slander and insults.

Look what you made me do! This is your fault! I wouldn't have had to do this if you just went along with this!

I thought anarchism was about DISMANTLING power dynamics like that of a tankie admin cabal?

They are the few against th emany.

My community never started this

I haven't seen any takes from that person to imply they're a fascist. I think there's enough beef going around without throwing more into this bonfire.

Someone really needs to touch grass :D

Went outside and touched grass as per usual; still have not become an Uyghur genocide denier, nor have I decided to allow Holodomor genocide denial, nor have I defended Vanguardist parties suppressing democracy whilst claiming to be an anarchist.

I guess it's just you.

I got banned from voat, twice, because I was questioning nazis on their views. I like to question extremists and make it clear that their positions are illogical and nonsensical, only fuelled by hatred and insecurity. I also take credit for helping shut down ruqqus, which was filled with alt-righters. I also helped shut down /r/uncensorednews, which was the largest neo-nazi subreddit. But sure, I'm a nazi because I dare challenge them, that makes sense.

I challenge extremists of all varieties. I challenge tankies, jihadists, Christian fundamentalists, sovereign citizens, QAnons, anti-vaxxers, antisemites, libertarians and trump supporters. Does that make me all of those things? No, obviously not.

ExplodingHeads didn't start openly fascist. They first presented themselves as conservative, as extremists usually do. At the time Lemmy was brand new, and my argument was that the fediverse needs variety and diversity of opinions to stay alive. Unfortunately, EH was co-opted by neo-nazis, or they were neo-nazis all along, but if anyone from back then recalls, I also regularly challenged them on their Trump-supporter positions. But it's easier to ignore all that history and context.

I joined because it had an icon of a burger, but I left after I realised what it was. Moved on to aussie.zone and later to SJW.

I was, I was brought on by tejmar, the head mod who wanted WPD to be a more serious subreddit, not filled with sick jokes of making fun of dead people and because I was good at identifying extremists early and catching onto their many dogwhistles. We both wanted WPD to be a more educational community like /r/medizzy, focusing on a more philosophical and medical take on the subreddit's content. After the Christchurch shooting, I left because it was my opinion that the shooting shouldn't be posted due to the shooter being a neo-nazi and also because it's sickening footage that will get the sub in hot water. My protests went unheard, I was removed, and predictably, it was banned.

I don't even have meat... Also don't know what you mean by sheriff star?

It’s a fascist dogwhistle, especially the way its use is normalized on MoG.

I recall back over a decade ago when trolling fascist dickheads at /pol/, I called on my inner cantankerous, old man to ridicule their illiberal views and started calling them backward degenerates trying to set society back to the dark ages. With their scant vocabulary, they went agog with astonishment at this new word and went

Degenerate? What's that mean?

Then they became absorbed with that word & brought it back from old man parlance into their common sayings with degenerate this & degenerate that. They couldn't get enough of it.

Believe me or not, point is it wasn't always a dog whistle, it has been used to criticize the pieces of shit using it as a dog whistle for being that very thing they purport to oppose, and it still can be used that way. Nothing stops anyone else from claiming it back.

ill add it to the post thank you

Lol, pugjesus and goat are nowhere near "the left"

Just documenting important lemmy-lore

Only one is sending assholes to others

Where does db0 deny and aprove of genocide?

Idk who needs to hear this but oppressing other people is bad regardless of who you are.

Correct.

Meanwhileongrad doesn't approve of any genocide, neither do I.

just don't kill people, it's pretty easy

100% this. And so many people still say we need it because it "stops vote brigading." Which it obviously doesn't even do.

Meanwhile this kind of drama is getting worse, and we haven't even scraped the surface of potential downsides yet. I, for one, can't wait until we have armies of AI driven astroturf bots which use public voting vote to target engagement far beyond what is possible with just comments.

If you don't want down votes to impact post visibility as much then change the algorithm to do that. Hell, give mods tools to just quietly ignore down votes entire on a case by case basis. Bothe of these things are stupidly simple and would be vastly more effective at dealing with vote brigades than mods making Pepe DaSilva sting graphs trying to root out connected users.

https://www.cair.com/action_alerts/cair-commends-27-senators-who-voted-to-block-weapons-for-israels-genocide-calls-vote-historic-sign-of-progress/

Dem leadership still voting for it

Did Not Vote (3 Senators): Gallego (D-AZ), Kelly (D-AZ), Slotkin (D-MI).

The following 17 Democratic Senators voted NO, choosing to continue arming an apartheid regime: Michael Bennet (D-CO), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Chris Coons (D-DE), Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV), John Fetterman (D-PA), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Maggie Hassan (D-NH), John Hickenlooper (D-CO), Alex Padilla (D-CA), Gary Peters (D-MI), Jacky Rosen (D-NV), Adam Schiff (D-CA), Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Mark Warner (D-VA), and Ron Wyden (D-OR).

So Biden stopped the war and didn't break federal laws to keep it going, while telling people in Israel to keep the war going?

teeny tiny instances

that's third largest Lemmy instance to you. but nice try.

The instance needs to be defederated like the rest of the Tankie networks they platform.

For me, it's kind of the opposite.

@fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com explanation

FYI goat, i downvoted the post you screenshotted because the person, @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de, made this disgusting comment and got permabanned on LW + here for it. He’s a horrible person, which is why i downvoted his post. Not because of the content.

I am not a tankie, not even hexbear/ml users consider me as such; I’ve also seen other stuff about me being a Soviet apologist (?) Which, no, from using the search feature, I have not it seems. Unless they’re including the time I was being nice to cowbee… ? Either way I personally do not have a positive opinion of the USSR but I really don’t want to get into that here.

I have also had a conversation with cowbee themselves once where I told them I disagree with them with the USSR, China and Ukraine about a week ago, so no, I am not an apologist for the Soviet union.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21109507

From @unruffled@anarchist.nexus

To be clear, if I haven’t been already, I 100% condemn China’s actions towards the Uyghurs. Is it technically a genocide? Depends what definition you’re working with, but to my mind it meets the definition.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21075559

On the other hand single mod on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works seems quite ban happy lately, and resorting to debatable arguments

My community is also bigger lol

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20731327

And the amount of posts on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works by that same single mod is concerning. How many of those do they need make, reusing the same screenshot ad nauseam when Unruffled recognized that China's actions towards the Uyghur meet the definition of a genocide (see comment above)?

I think it is time to add @PugJesus@lemmy.world and @goat@sh.itjust.works to the team with @cm0002@lemmy.world as the people fighting to save the Threadiverse from the tankie-scum. Not surprised to see this I was calling @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com and @unruffled@anarchist.nexus tankies for months.