Trump Claims the Power to Summarily Kill Suspected Drug Smugglers
Trump Claims the Power to Summarily Kill Suspected Drug Smugglers
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When the accusation means the death penalty with no trial, nobody is safe
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Anyone still deluded into thinking he's not a dictator yet?
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So now he's trying the Duterte flavor of dictatorship.
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SCOTUS has given POTUS (not just Cheeto chimp) immunity. Of course Trump will do whatever he wants.
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That raises the question of whether Mr. Trump has legitimate authority to tell the military to summarily kill people it suspects are smuggling drugs — and whether the administration allowed career military lawyers to weigh in.
Eat shit NYT, fuck this sanewashing bullshit. "Raises the question"my ass! He absolutely does not have the authority because the law fucking says so! Why does the media bend over fucking backward to lick their own assholes by acting like these are even questions to be answered‽ They have completely abdicated their duty as journalistic media. "Fourth estate" absolute bullshit capitulation to rogue powers with dictatorial intent.
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Because the media is owned by billionaires so they want to push for anything which expands their power and control
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Extra judicial killings are bread and butter for US presidents, made really popular by Obama.
This is of course fucked, but there are clear precedents for presidents killing any one, including US citizens, they name a terrorist.
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The deaths from Obama's drones were no less judicial than the deaths from Bush's troops, both were carried out within the definition of the 'war on terror', which was approved by Congress.
Trump's strike on that Venezuelan boat was outside of the approved scope.
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Obama killed US citizens who were in Al-Qaida and ISIS training camps. I'd have done the same. Those fuckers are fair game.
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You got it all wrong. Extra judicial killings outside the US are Gucci. Inside the US you're only allowed judicial killings and obvious 'suicides'.
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Fuck everyone who clapped back at me when I said Bush and Obama’s extrajudicial killings would come back to bite us.
Habeas corpus for all.
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Bush and Obama had the legal cover of the original Congressional AUMF from 2001. That has now finally fully expired.
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No they did not. They started wars all over the place but simply did not call them wars. All without congressional approval.
Trump can do this so easily because they made it possible to kill anyone deemed a terrorist. All Trump had to was expand the definition of terrorism to include drug dealers.
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Yeah well Trump has the legal cover of "I can do whatever the fuck I want" immunity which has fully not expired. Worst case they just tell him he can't kill people like 3 years after he killed a bunch of people and he just says "no."
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I feel like the administration is going to have any legal backing, it will probably center on the rights of stateless vessels. Does the President have the right to use lethal force against pirates in international waters?
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When have Americans ever given a single fuck about Latin Americans? Except to overthrow their governments when they goddam feel like it. Trump murdered some rando Latinos on a tiny boat with an outboard motor with like, an aircraft carrier, and broadcast it online. Americans literally give absolutely zero fucks if he does illegal shit to them, why would they care if he annihilates brown people.
The US is a rogue fascist country.
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Wait, what? I haven't heard about this.
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It was within the last day or two. Near Venezuela. They blew up a boat they claim was smuggling drugs. They didn't even attempt to board it, just shot a missile and killed seven people.
Rubio and Trump were bragging about it.
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Just how many kids did he rape??? Now he's KILLING PEOPLE in order to detract from the Epstein files!
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I think you forgot that Trump just likes killing people, regardless of the Epstein files.
Bill Barr literally had to dangle death row inmates he could put to death in front of Trump like keys for a baby to get him to focus on certain things. Literally having to bribe him with murdering people to get him to pay attention.
Trump would be doing this anyway, don't give him weak excuses like he's trying to cover something up. He is a fucking monstrous person plain and simple.
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Some idiot in Houston decided he had a right to summarily execute a child for playing a harmless prank
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Yeah but he'll most likely go to jail for murder. Call me crazy but I don't think that will happen here.
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In Texas he'll probably get a quick draw award. Do you know how fast those kids run? Dude must have been chomping at the bit for years to end one of those quick, little fuckers.
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You know, another country's leader thought that they had the right to summarily kill drug smugglers. He's currently in prison in The Hague awaiting trial for crimes against humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Rodrigo_Duterte
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The US has credibly threatened to invade the Hague should any member of their armed forces be made to stand trial there. Ignoring them is a long long standing US tradition.
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I think we’d make an exception for Trump…
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Does drug smuggling usually result in a death penalty if convicted? If not, then it shouldn't warrant execution without trial
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Regardless the accused have a right to defend themselves in court, the authorities do not establish guilt juries do. In or out of the us, citizen or no.
Unless self defense, they are not calling that specifically to set precedent of extrajudicial killing with armed forces. Next stop stateside.
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Even if it did, the trial bit is pretty important.
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I'm not aware of the US imposing the death penalty for smuggling.
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we are all drug smugglers
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speak for yourself.
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Will he pay royalties to Duterte?
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Look, since every pig on the street has that power, it only makes sense that the president does too
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Is this a surprise. He through out due process. I really don't see how people did not see the deeper consequences of it from the get go. Everyone should be out at every opportunity.
Judge Judy and executioner.