• _number8_@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    why even build this option into the system? no troll is going to care after a year…no legitimate sicko is going to be cooled off by forever either

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      11 months ago

      Account bans (not access to online services) should literally only be forever. They’re for fraud and hacking and shit.

      Nothing that doesn’t warrant a lifetime ban should remove access to games.

    • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      Why would you ban anyone who truly deserves it (e.g. for cheating or harassment or sexual harassment) for anything less than forever? What would you gain from giving them a chance to come back other than a high chance for more moderator headaches?

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 months ago

        Pshh you’re being downvoted but fuck that. If a ban is legit, make it permanent. Cheating? Shouting slurs at folks? Fuck off, banned forever. Companies used to do that, now they’re WEAK

        • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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          11 months ago

          If it came with no downsides, sure. Not being able to play Playstation is a very minor part in life not really deserving any kind of “fundamental rights” based argument, unlike locking people up.

            • null@slrpnk.net
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              11 months ago

              But you didn’t purchase them, you licensed them conditionally.

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                  11 months ago

                  In other words, no you do not currently have a fundamental right to that content.

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                    11 months ago

                    In other words, no not even close to what I said.

                    Often these little legalese situations are illegal or legally undefined, and the only reason it holds is because no one has pushed against it

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        11 months ago

        hi, sometimes people get banned for no reason.

        if they’re a repeat offender, ban them again easy.

        otherwise, nah.

        people let their siblings, children, friends play on their consoles.

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          11 months ago

          Oh, there should absolutely be ways to appeal a ban if you have a legitimate argument, but making it temporary for everyone is just insane.

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            11 months ago

            bans are already temporary in the sense that offenders can acquire new accounts, hardwares, or networks to circumvent them anyway. all that permanent bans does is guarantee that people who are falsely banned, arent repeat offenders, or even got hacked themselves get permanantly banned.

            appeal processes arent a guarantee to getting an account back.

            Games have much more strict bans than they need imo.

            a lot of terrible chat filters have gotten people permabanned and thats kinda just it. im here for no permanent bans.