• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    140
    ·
    4 days ago

    here’s the thing though: they’ll abolish the ACA, and when people start complaining, they’ll just blame everything on mexicans.

    and trump voters will 10000000% believe it

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      4 days ago

      blame everything on mexicans

      I’m sorry, it’s all my fault and I take full responsibility. I’ll make tamales with atole for the victims of my reckless Mexican behavior. 😔

    • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      4 days ago

      “Illegals smuggle our patriotic, expensive insulin out of the US, and we gotta build a wall facing the other direction to keep them in this time! We’ll use tariffs to get Mexico to pay for it!”

  • yrmp@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    4 days ago

    The idea of voting for a candidate with whom you disagree on things upon which you depend for your livelihood or survival is just wild to me.

    • Bruhh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 days ago

      They don’t think about any of the social programs that they depend on. It’s about hurting the right people. A platform built on hate. Then they wonder why the leopards ate their face.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      People vote based on what they think the person is like. Harris is boring and the same old. Trump tells it like it is, that’s exciting!
      Nevermind that boring is what you want for government, you want everything to just work. But no, gotta be emotional about it.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 days ago

      As a school bus driver, I work with a bunch of older people who are already utterly dependent on social security and medicare to have any semblance of a life that doesn’t involve living in a tent in the park and dumpster diving for dinner. They are mostly trumpers. We’re all Teamsters as well, and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all). I have made a few attempts to convince them that trump (and Republicans for fucking decades) are out to destroy social security, medicare, unions and gay rights (among lots of other things) - but they reacted to me like I had grown an extra head. Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        3 days ago

        They are mostly trumpers.

        Spend all your time on a bus listening to AM Talk Radio year after year after year and see what happens to your brain.

        Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

        Americans are the most propagandized people on Earth.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 days ago

        and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all).

        They do know that just because it’s a Republican porn of choice, Republicans don’t actually hate lesbians, right?

  • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    82
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    by jan we will be so consumed by the flavour of the month culture war (trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza gate!) that they wont even notice its happening.

    by the time they need it they’ll forget who even took it away.

    by the time they vote they’ll just think trump saved them from leftist death panels or some shit.

    edit: oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn’t they… le sigh

    • dumbass@leminal.space
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      4 days ago

      trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza

      So what type of pizza do they like? Gotta get ready for January!

    • frunch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 days ago

      oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn’t they… le sigh

      I’m over giving a fuck about them at this point. It’s tired, old hat, doesn’t really even bother me anymore. I know they’re saying shit to enrage people but when you see enough of it, it eventually just stops registering. I’m sure they’ll still find takers for their stupid games but i also suspect others are also moving on from giving a fuck too. How long can you really play games like that before you finally see them for what they are? Bunch of miserable twats trying to drag everyone else down to their level. I take comfort knowing i live a happier life than them, that all they have is hate. It’s actually kind of sad, really

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    73
    ·
    4 days ago

    Oh god dammit.

    It just occurred to me that unless there’s some state thing Im unaware of, when I divorce, once the damn ACA gets pulled she won’t have insurance and I’m on the hook for medical shit for 5~ years.

    God fucking dammit. Just another reason these goddamn Nazi bastards needed to be taken care of before the election.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      ·
      4 days ago

      Hah! Look at you, thinking you’ll be able to divorce in a few years from now. Haven’t seen project 2025?

      • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        48
        ·
        4 days ago

        I’m going to just assume that this is a man so he’ll be able to divorce just fine. Getting rid of no fault divorce is just for women so they are kept in the marriage where they’re abused.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        4 days ago

        I’m attempting to get the divorce done before that occurs.

        And I can prove fault if necessary I just really don’t want to dig that shit up again. The memory of discovering the affair was bad enough.

        And like the guy below said I’m a dude

        • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          Yeah, I assumed you’re a dude. But it doesn’t matter. About a year from now, it’s fair to assume that divorce is at least on the table/ chopping block, if not already outright banned by the new theocracy

    • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      4 days ago

      Well I kept saying that and the responses were- without fail- “you first, tough guy!”, “go back to twitter, ammosexual!”, “if we dont respect free speech for Nazis then they wont respect ours when they gain power!”, and “you’re the REAL Nazi!!”

      So I hope trumptards get every single fucking thing they voted for.

  • JayObey711@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    3 days ago

    Just start laughing about loud and point at them with your arm fully extended. We should start shaming people in a more direct primal way again. Shame is probably the most powerful feeling (maybe second to “ahh oh my god I’m dying???” however you want to call that)

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I could not agree more. This is the same bunch that tries to make being liberal a dirty word. They use liberal as epithet, along with things like environmentalist, community organizer, social justice (SJW), or veg*n (“soy boy”). Also: being educated, or in fact, aspiring to anything more than just being a huckster, a sportsball star, or, more recently, an “influencer”.

      About time to start shaming THEM.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    50
    ·
    4 days ago

    Well last time they tried to get rid of it, but John McCain sank that effort as if failed 49-51. Just before he died of cancer.

    Now all the John McCains have been purged from the GOP and they will have a bigger senate majority, and likely a significant house majority too. So if there is an effort to repeal the ACA, it’ll very likely pass.

    • Corigan@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      4 days ago

      Non stop fillibusters for 4 years?

      Is that our only hope?

      • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        You mean filibuster. The Democrats didn’t eliminate it under Biden out of fear for what Republicans would do when they took power again. Guess what?

        • bamfic@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          4 days ago

          And I was pissed off about that but now have to reluctantly give them credit for that. Turned out to be the right call.

          But if they actually use it, the way McConnel did when he was in the minority, then the Republicans will finally get rid of it. They don’t need it, as they will never again be the minority party.

          • Tinidril@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            4 days ago

            There is no way we don’t get a massive recession or worse in Trump’s presidency. MAGA won’t care, but a lot of the idiot moderates always blame the incumbent party and will vote in a Democrat.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 days ago

              Pretty much, honestly I think Kamela would have won if they just put up a reel-to-reel film reminding people Covid-19 is Trump’s fault

      • capital@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        They should get out of the way. It appears the majority want this.

        It would seem that many need a reminder of how bad it can be.

        • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          Do the majority of people want ACA appealed or do the majority of people not understand what’s coming for them?

          • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 days ago

            Given all the people who wanted to “Repeal Obamacare and replace it with the ACA!”

            The latter

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        All it takes to eliminate the filibuster is a bare majority. Democrats did it selectively to carve out exceptions for the few promises they actually wanted to fulfill.

    • humble peat digger@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 days ago

      That has gotta be hugely unpopular right?
      People would absolutely flip out if we go back to “preexisting conditions”.

      • rational_lib@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        It will be hugely unpopular. It’s not clear whether that will translate to Trump or Republicans becoming unpopular though.

    • Loce@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 days ago

      Nah, somehow it’ll be Biden’s fault… google backfire effect, the more you challenge their beliefs the more they fight for them, even when proven wrong. They do not learn. They will not ever learn. They do not want to learn.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    The assumption to make here is that Trump is willing to try to do everything he’s said. This is a guy who literally tried to ban Muslims after all.

    Personally, I think that the tumult of his administration is going to get in the way of its own agenda, as evidenced by his first presidency. Half of the people on his staff will be gone before the first year is out, and Trump is going to spend more time golfing than he will actually governing. His biggest focus will be on monetizing the presidency, and he surrounds himself with incompetent sycophants.

    These and other factors make it difficult to say what he will actually achieve.

    As for the ACA, it was a conservative court that stopped him the first time, so the SCOTUS is no slam dunk. I don’t think anyone can definitively state what will happen with regards to health care in this country.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      4 days ago

      JD Vance was made his running mate cause JD Vance is down with project 2025 and will be doing the actual running of things.

      So it doesnt matter what Trump is off doing. JD Vance will be back at the office, doing the nasty work that trump will rubber stamp.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        You can speculate on that, but history would demonstrate that you’re probably wrong. Hell, Trump tried to get his own VP assassinated last time.

        I’m sure they think they can control Trump, but as we saw from 2016 to 2020, they can’t. That’s especially true at Trump’s age and with his cognitive decline.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          Trump also famously told his VP picks in 2016 that they would run the country, he just wanted the title and perks of the presidency.

          That was 8 years and 3 swaying Ave Marias ago, I doubt he is more motivated to do the job now.

    • Ham Strokers Ejacula@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      4 days ago

      Normally I would agree with you but I think Donald has lost touch with reality and we are letting a dementia patient run the country. I don’t think we could be in more dangerous territory. I mean, he isn’t even playing golf anymore.

      • AA5B@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        I do think that’s the point. He can be the guy in the chair, and let his sycophants pursue their personal agendas

  • BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    3 days ago

    I have a feeling this channel is going to get a lot of content in the next four years…