During the last election, there were a band of Yahoo’s running around with a spray paint marker putting blue dots in front of houses that had Democrat yard signs.
They’re preparing for civil war. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but they are marking targets.
For years, the American center-left has been casting these threats as illegitimate. Gravy seals, yall queda, meal team six, etc.
And now since they have successfully downplayed this threat, we are woefully unprepared. People need to get armed, now.
No. you’re just trying to stir up a civil war. People need to go drink tea with their neighbours, now.
Ahh , yes two sugars please.
Now tell me again why you feel that forcing a mother with a fatal pregnancy to go full term to kill herself is better than a boarding the fetus.
Well you see, other people, not this girl would take advantage of it. And she’s in God’s hands anyway.
Mmm, this is quite good is it Yorkshire Gold?
And when a child shows up to your door and rings the bell looking for help how is it that you believe you’re in the right to shoot them in the face?
Well, you see, man has to protect himself…
I really don’t think I could stomach tea with these people.
If you’re from denmark I don’t think you can appreciate how radicalized these neighbors have become through extremist news and social media.
They’re already arming themselves for a civil war and openly calling themselves domestic terrorists, and your response is tea? You’re naive if you think neighborliness is enough to avoid the coming conflict, they’ve already killed Americans.
/s ?
That doesn’t matter
All that matters is the side the army takes
Now if you’re looking to start a terrorist group, that would be much more effective than buying a gun. However there are obvious downsides to that too
Dewine says he can’t remove the dude here: https://www.wkyc.com/video/news/local/3news-at-6/gov-mike-dewine-calls-portage-county-sheriffs-comments-about-harris-supporters-very-unfortunate/95-4f3b90dd-1cf8-4243-a148-c90ed821c38a
but the Ohio revised code seems to suggest he can? https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-3.08
Beep boop
Ohio ex sheriff*
Sounds illegal.
It’s not illegal when the police do it.
True but they do have addresses don’t they?
How so?
I’ve been saying the fascists do this already. Add the fascists to https://magatmap.com to protect yourself and your community.
EDIT - For the apologists in this thread: https://ideatrash.net/2018/06/if-theres-one-nazi-or-a-racist-at-the-table.html
Interesting people still don’t understand the paradox of tolerance or fascism and anti-fascism. They are this close to loosing their democracy but think there won’t be any political violence from the fascists.
I’d bring up the various nonaggression pacts made with fascists in the past, but so far I think it would fall on deaf ears. Tolerance leads to fascist control.
Counterargument to your trash idea link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis
Por que no los dos? Mr. Davis does fine work. People can change, but until then others should be concerned for their safety around them.
What good does it do to highlight random citizens? Of it was businesses and politicians. But this does not help. Is there any confirmation that these people are trumpers.
Nope. Just pictures of people’s homes and addresses and whatever anyone wants to put on the description. Take a picture of your neighbor that took your parking spot and say they shoot at people and see what happens! Fun for the whole family!
What an awful, ugly idea.
The pictures are required to show something connecting them. Fascist flags, signs, dogwhistles.
Still just random people. Not cops or government officials or something.
Sounds like it’s as random as the list this sherrif’s putting together, don’t it?
And you want to be like them? Focus on cops and ceos and government officials otherwise it’s pointless
you don’t get it. it takes people to elect the officials. the people are the base of support. they need to be blacklisted. it’s time to clean up our own back yard. this is the only way to stop fascism, corporate overreach and eco dystopia.
To what end? Violence? Are you going to be okay with hurting their children too?
Well the way things are currently, is that certain people get murdered and shit on for super arbitrary reasons, so uhh.
Yeah. Fuck em
Children?
i’m okay with any solution that provides a sustainable future in which we protect the quality of life for all living things. there is no perfect path towards that future, but without one, we will destroy no only ourselves but so many innocent creatures.
we are currently in a failed state of humanity. we need a reset.
You first.
How do you propose to “clean up” these people? I’m getting chills reading your comment.
it’s okay. cowards need not apply.
Great way to beat fascism, just become fascist yourself!
Because only cowards would apply. Idiotic approach to the problem
Are these people verified in any way?
I would not doubt that like around where I live, they fly huge ass “Trump 2024” flags on their property making it obvious who they support.
I agree it doesn’t help, though.
Fascists hide when they feel threatened. Don’t give them the chance
You can tell a lot about that site, since Texas and New Hampshire are empty.
You mean that it’s just getting started and grassroots? You got it! Still very new and spreading the word.
Disgusting. Please don’t participate in this.
“being safe is disgusting!” ok bootlicker.
You’re making a targeted list of private citizens based on their political ideologies. You’re doing the boots job for them.
Not only that but doing exactly what the fucking article is calling out at heinous
there is absolutely nothing to gain in war by taking the high road
What fucking war?
The culture war, you know, the one where a lot of folks think it’s great we have things like birth control and public transportation and stuff.
And then a few other folks that think -basically, boiled down the real truth of it- that everyone that isn’t a white male should be a slave to white males.
Obviously the best way to fight this is education, which a particular side has been hellbent on destroying, and considering what I was taught in public school, has been pretty effective about it.
Does it get to their wet dream of wantonly murdering folks in the street like they fantasize about? Well, we lost more people on our side in the 2020 protests than they did.
Probably something to with believing people are humans, and should be treated with dignity.
So get some goddamn guns and go to the range. I’d rather have it and not need it, and know how to fucking use it
Once again, I understand the best way to win is education. My short patience and compassion is entirely spent on people near me, so if you can go around teaching ignorant morons right from wrong please do. They already know. Their in-group lets them get away with it
hi. welcome to western civilization. you see, there’s been this struggle going on for some time now between altruism and narcissism, aka conservatism and liberalism, aka leftist vs. right wing, and in the last few decades it’s gotten pretty heated (it’s done this before) and so yeah… the future of civilization is kinda hanging in the balance so maybe it’s time for you to realize that:
IT’S A WAR. PICK A FUCKING SIDE.
Well when fascism starts being oppressed instead of being the oppressor, I’ll worry about your opinion.
This is not a left-right, one group vs another group, fascism against democracy argument. This is a well documented moral and philosophical conclusion that you don’t give tools like these to a governing body or organization. The targets and terminology always get corrupted by bad-faith actors over time. You would not have control over how this information gets used nor the validity if someone just “placed” a sign for the photo so they would be targeted.
You are self-reporting to a system that has the ability to become oppressive, use your time more wisely if you wish to promote a good cause. https://go.kamalaharris.com/ has remote volunteering with phone banking etc and has training you can take and local events if that’s your shtick.
You realize this information is all freely and publicly available? A tool to be safe from fascists being abused by bad actors is still a tool to be safe from fascists. I’m not responsible for the actions of bad actors because I supported a tool. If I am, then based on your recommendation of helping VP Harris’s campaign, doesn’t that make you responsible for the genocide she is actively supporting? Also, please do not assume that I am anti-Democrat or pro anything. I am anti-fascist. Do not assume I’m not calling/donating/volunteering. This is just one facet of trying to help.
Why can’t fascists use this tool to network with each other?
Also, it would be more effective to have a map of rapists and dangerous men imo. I could and would contribute significantly to that type of list. A lot of wealthy men who are rapists are also white supremacists. I don’t think I’ve ever been sexually assaulted by someone who WASN’T revealed to be racist.
The link was one example of something you can link as actually helpful and not detrimental to the democratic process. Making lists of political opponents (and especially citizens) is a fascists move, you’re using the tools of the master to try and take down the house. If you support a tool being abused by bad actors, you need to look into that tool. Just because you’re ignorant of the situation doesn’t mean you aren’t complicit.
I say we keep a list of fascist sheriffs instead.
This is just a list of sheriff departments
I think that was their point.
Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it felt like Hiccup’s “You just pointed at all of me” quip.
They’re calling all sheriffs fascist
9 seems low.
A list of sherriffs, then?
There is a map! Add the fascists and protect yourselves. https://magatmap.com
“It’s wrong when they do it, it’s okay if we do it.”
Keeping a list of people openly putting out fascist paraphernalia is a good thing because people like this hide as soon as the wind turns against them. Don’t let them fade into the background.
So…I’m with you. Fascists are bad, and we need to make sure that Fascists can’t hide their fascism when and if we get this country sorted and back on its feet. But I have questions!
- How do we ensure that we only catch Fascists? Your Magatmap seems to require an image, but no description.
- What stops me from cooking up an AI image of somebody I don’t like with Trump flags and swastika arm bands and getting them submitted to your system?
- What happens if this guy was a Trumpet in 2016, but is apologetic about it now and swears he’s no longer a trumpet?
- How do you ensure that innocent people not get caught up in your MAGAt Map?
- What are we supposed to do with the map afterwards?
Liberals have a good reason for questioning your methods here. We don’t want to become what we hate because when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares into you. We’ve seen it happen time and time again. And those of us who look at your suggestion wonder if we will become Nazis trying to fight Nazis your way.
Its not my map
Does anyone here believe that these are equivalent, and that both of your statements are true?
it’s a war. we’re the good guys. glad you’re catching on.
it’s a war. we’re the good guys.
Said by everyone who has ever participated in a way.
sure, but only one side can win. which side do you want that to be?
You don’t fucking “win” in any context of what your talking about. For every person who you “eradicate” of conservative thinking just makes the pendulum of thinking swing harder to resist what your attempting to do. You sound like a child or autistic. I haven’t decided which yet.
i think people would cheer to see swaths of conservatives cease to exist.
The side that’s not making a map of everyone who disagrees with them so that they can punish them as soon as they have the power to do so.
maybe you should leave the country then. i’m here to win because i care about what this planet looks like after i’m gone. there is no place for cowards any more.
You should write that all over your car
MAGAt Map is like Family Watchdog. It provides locations to avoid for safety.
The Ohio Sheriff is advocating lists for retribution and mob violence using a position of power.
I hope you can see the difference.
Read the other comments here, that map will be used for mob violence, too
Was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Motorist_Green_Book used for violence? I’d say the benefit of providing safety is greater than the risk of bad actors.
Nah, I can’t think of anything negative happening based on a list of people, their beliefs, and addresses especially not in the 1930s
Do you actually know what you’re talking about? Do you have anything other than opinion and unsupported questions to offer?
In other countries, not only would the voter suppression be illegal, but racial hate speech would also land this fucker in jail.
America truly is a special place.
Depends on the country, sad to say. This is not American uniqueness.
Police are fine with not following the law and pushing it to the limits to harass people. Be safe out there if you plant your sign for whoever you’re voting for.
Ohio sheriff spotted linking ears with RFK Jr. followed by reported sounds of moaning, “violent, fleshy worm movement” and the smell of celebratory, rotted bear meat.
Dude might have just fucked himself.
He’s racked up complaints all the way up to the DoJ, and this story is gaining national traction.
Our AG Milquetoast might have to take action on this. It’s voter intimidation.
gaining national traction.
I’m over here on the other side of the world, reading this in a different country.
Wouldn’t that make that… international?
lol. Our AG has no respect for his role in America. He has extremely important responsibilities to act but only seems interested in watching MAGAts (at least the elected ones) get away scott free.
Thank God for Jack Smith.
Voter suppression. Someone contact the FBI about him. I already notified them about the lunatic lady who threatened trans people.
Anybody voting republican is actively encouraging this nazi shit, and if they don’t realize they are they’re probably too stupid to be voting.
Add fascists to the map! https://magatmap.com
this is genius. don’t let these pansie pacifist downvoters deter you. this is exactly what we need.
I’m not going anywhere. :)
unfortunately the only people who are too stupid to vote are those who don’t or those who vote third party knowing they have no chance. it’s like Darwin awards but instead of the gene pool they take themselves out of the voting pool.
actually, if it goes a certain way maybe out of the gene pool as well.
I know those yard signs helps me to identify the racists in my neighborhood.
Theres a fairly large(billboard sized) trump sign on the side of the road on my commute. Id love to light it up
Yeah, nothing worse than a billboard you can’t see at night. Get some spotlights, am I right???
Well i was thinking more of flaming arrows from the road shoulder
Better not miss
Its only 10-15 feet off the road. Doubti could miss even in a tornado
… huh?
Flip the script.
Add fascists to the map! https://magatmap.com
Im trans and I have multiple trump people in my neighborhood. My partner and I have agreed us putting up either pride flags or Harris signs would simply make ourselves targets since we live in a red state and county. I don’t want people like this to put me on a list so they can come and attack the house if their fascist leader comes into power. Something that while they would want to do, I’m not positive they’d actually have the guts to do.
Regardless, this shit terrifies me.
Two of our (gay couple) neighbors said something similar to me a while back: They’re too afraid to put up a sign or flag.
My house doesn’t have any LGBTQ people living in it but we have a HUGE fucking LGBTQ flag right across from the American flag. It’s been such a blessing too! Now the most annoying of my neighbors don’t try to smalltalk with me anymore about their absolutely batshit insane conspiracy theories 👍
Im not trans but I often think about my leftist views being on the Internet, in the surveillance age, we really really cannot let these motherfuckers into more power. Shit will hit the fan quickly.
I hope you don’t feel any shame in this. It’s absolutely disgusting that you live with this sort of fear, and I hope you have a community that you can rely on.
Also, I saw that someone suggested learning to handle firearms, which I agree with, but if home defense is what you’re going for, a good ole fashioned Louisville Slugger will also often do the truck
Are you armed? You don’t have to reveal political affiliation to go to a gun range and learn how to shoot and basic gun safety.
I definitely need to learn how to shoot, I did when I was a kid but haven’t gone shooting in a long time. Unfortunately, I don’t feel safe to actually get armed just because of my own mental health. I do have friends who are armed, though, and they’re willing to come help if need be.
May I suggest you take up learning a martial art?
Not sure what they’re like in your area, but when I learned Karate as a kid in the 90s/00s, everyone was treated according to their skill level and discipline, gender/sex is irrelevant (beyond cups for guys and thick sports bras for gals).
Its not likely to make you bullet proof, but it does stand a decent chance at bettering your physical and mental health, give you more options when a gun is not part of the scenario.
Also, I would second the notion of going to a range and signing up for basic pistol and rifle familiarization, as well as basic medical training, unless you legitimately are totally terrified of firearms or have some kind of trauma or PTSD related to them.
Such courses usually provide you with firearms for the course, you don’t own them or take them home, they stay at the range. You just learn the basic principles of operation and safety and shooting technique, under hopefully an extremely serious couple of range masters who will hopefully teach you to treat all guns as if they are loaded until you have personally verified they are not, and to never, not even accidentally, point the barrel of a gun at something you do not intend to destroy.
You don’t need to go buy a gun first and not trust yourself with it.
In fact usually a novice shooter is going to want to experiment a bit with different calibers and guns with differing grip styles and weight distributions untill you find something comfortable to shoot.
Martial arts and guns can give people a false sense of security. Who wants to devote a huge portion of their life to preparing for personalize warfare? LARPers live for that crap. On the other hand, it is wise to have a method of self defense as a normal life plan.
The absolute best defense is avoidance whether getting away or even moving your place of residence. There are many places where people aren’t bat-shit crazy.
Forget martial arts if someone has deadly intentions. Get a short shot gun and learn safety and security first. Then learn your firearm very intimately, both how it works and how to use it so well that muscle memory is instinctive. Then, learn how to set a trap where you have the advantage even if you aren’t super proficient. Most of all watch this short video.
I’m a paranoid sort. If I paraded a quarter of the signs, flags, offensive bumper stickers, et. al., of some of my neighbors in my red state, I would just expect that my property would be vandalized, my family threatened, my life endangered. I’m intentionally avoiding showing up on any “lists” that might be composed regarding people from different tribes. It’s not right that this is a problem, but it is reality.
