DM me on Spotify: Spotify launches a messaging feature.
Introducing Messages, A New Way To Share What You Love on Spotify with Friends and Family — Spotify
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36348361
Recently ditched Spotify, and you should too.
what alternative did you end up going with?
I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.
If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.
I switched to Qobuz. They use https://soundiiz.com/ to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?
I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.
I've been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify's weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.
Also, it's maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier's features at the lower one's cost
I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.
I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.
I am very happy with my recent switch from Spotify to TIDAL
Always looking for new members who love music :)
Apple music. High bitrate and aptx on android. And they pay artists more than Spotify. I moved over a while ago but I used some website to transfer over all my music.
Edit: looks like apple music might have the ability to transfer your music built into it now?https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/26/apple-music-transfer-tool-6-more-countries/
use ymusic with no ads for youtube
I would gladly have you leech 5000 songs off me in Soulseek if it meant Spotify was losing a customer.
Same! It decided 'fuck em all' and just downloaded all my music locally. It took some time to find a decent music player, but ended up with Musicolet, it's a fantastic local music player. The way I see it, I've paid for Spotify for years, so I don't feel bad about downloading all the music I had on there. Any new music I want I'll just straight up buy myself.
Let me just listen to music please…
I picked up some mp3 players with Bluetooth for about $7 each on aliexpress. Just finished acquiring my entire Spotify liked list. In my house, we're getting back on the correct timeline.
When you see things like this remember that you're paying for this. Stuff like this is why the price has gone up again.
They had a good thing near perfect but they kept adding useless features and bloating the app and price. I need to cancel this shit but my grandma loves it.
Once they brought on Podcasts and wouldn’t stop shoving Joe Rogan on every screen I absolutely cancelled. I never listened to a single podcast on there yet they were the overwhelming majority of my recommendations. I was also getting annoyed with the random pop-ups of ‘hey wanna try this band that sounds absolutely nothing like anything you’ve ever listened to on our platform before?’…nope! Didn’t need Audible either. The price just kept going up…like guys, I want a music app. That’s it. Nothing else.
Uninstalled Spotify over a year(or 2 or 3?) ago…don’t really miss it.
I am not paying for this :)
you shouldn't either
I have to because my grandma spent so much effort learning how to use it and she loves it.
Spotify was never anywhere near perfect.
Radio? More like exact same 50 track curated playlist on repeat.
Want to listen to music? Here's Joe Rogan. Again. Don't skip him, or we'll automatically subscribe you to his channel.
Enjoying something a little outside your normal 20 tracks we constantly play you? Well let's fix that... Back to the same tiny pool of content loser.
Couldn't help but notice you had some money left over this month. That's good, because the price just went up again.
You are mentioning things that enshitified it. Radio used to good, I've discovered 1000s of new songs through radio and 1000s of non mainstream artists through discover weekly playlist. The price raising has always been a stain, at first it was so cheap I didnt mind the price going up but its gone to far now. Its so crap now though, barely a music streaming platform.
Don’t forget putting fake AI songs into playlists when they think people won’t notice. After all they already pay artists the least of all the streaming services, might as well try to avoid it all together.
Nobody that likes music should be using Spotify.
of course feel free to use the competition we eliminated.
All I wanted was cd quality audio (which I’m willing to pay for)…
You know you’ve screwed up when the lazy people (me) actually get off their butts to switch.
Ha same, just moved to quboz. The family plan is actually less
Same. I would love to switch. Sadly many of my artists dont do physical Media:(
People will use every one of these horrendous messaging subapps but scoff at the idea of downloading signal or even whatsapp.
It's a good thing that people refuse to download Whatsapp/Meta crap
I've been saying for years the thing Spotify needs are short vertical format video clips. The whole "music" thing is a fad.
I know you're joking but... They actually do already have that. So many songs have a short looping video instead of the album cover or static background when you have the screen open.
There was a short time period, during which Spotify would automatically start playing reel-like demos of song releases with audio, when you open the app.
Imagine following artists with explicit lyrics, and it starts blasting in the public, because you just wanted to show an album to your friends. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it also included artists that are popular in your area, which makes even worse, as a lot of people here listen drill music.
Luckily, they reverted the stupid change.
Oh yeah I forgot about that because I disabled it 2 minutes after seeing it for the first time.
You can turn this off in the settings.
Zawinski's law: Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot expand are replaced by ones which can.
This is just the modern equivalent: Intra-site messaging.
Please let this be your sign to start ditching corporate platforms across the board. Enshitification will come for your pristine app experience eventually. Go spend your Spotify monthly bill on one album every month from bandcamp or something. Own your own media. Share it with friends. GET OFF CORPO AD PLATFORMS! I realize this is the fediverse, so people are already kind of on board, but I think music streaming is often given a pass, or sneaks by our focus when discussing these issues.
I've been telling people for years to buy 1-2 albums a month, and then after a couple years you have a sizable library. Spotify is renting.
But spotify is easy and fast, and some people think they listen to way more music than they do. I wonder how many people are paying spotify $10/month to listen to the same 4 albums for years.
But spotify is easy and fast,
So you mean it's convenient. That's a valid reason. Evil shit aside, that's literally why music streaming exploded the way it did.
Unfortunately, the evil shit is pushing me away. Why can't we just have a regular music streaming service that doesn't inevitably suffer from feature creep and enshittification? Why does everything have to constantly increase profits?
There’s something to be said for curated “auto” playlists, both for background and discovering stuff.
That being said, Pandora is waaaay better at this. So are free broadcasts/channels like Radio Paradise.
My wife is one of those people and I beg her over and over to just let me host her music.
Fuck Spotify. Pay better royalties
Internet company invents a whole new way to receive unsolicited pictures of genitals
I stopped using Spotify years ago and every time I hear about it I only get my decision further reinforced. What an absolutely cancerous company.
Why
NSFW bots sending you spam links and crypto scammers. Yea !!!!!
Did a Google engineer make his way to Spotify
The post I was on 5 seconds ago was about imugur and how people where confused when they added posts and comments to the image hosting site. Everyone wants a poece of the social media pie...but we need the infrastructure, the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
...the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
It's never free. The instance you're using isn't free; it's paid for by donations. ISPs and server hosts don't just give bandwidth out of charity or for the public good. One way or another, these for-profit companies are getting their pound of flesh, typically by selling targeted ad space.
The fact that these companies are adding chat features means they're now going to try mining conversations for additional consumer profile data points, which they can then sell to advertisers.
This new change is gross, and I hope nobody uses it.
Which they can sell to
advertisersLLM and AI companies.
It's not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There's no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.
The main problem is that we ran out, there's no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don't create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It's a new source of data to sell to data brokers.
Imgur had the social media element since mid-2010s at least, maybe longer.
Yeah I'll never forget the first time I saw someone just casually browsing IMGUR and I was like WTF are you doing?
No.
On another note: Apple Music migration tool will finally help Spotify users switch
Not saying it’s the best alternative, but at least there’s one escape route being built.
Hot take: buy your music instead—direct from the artist whenever possible, or start building your collection from whatever you can find at a thrift store.
Just finished a Tidal trial and really liked it. Then I found out it's owned by Block who owns Square. Jack Dorsey is CEO of Block.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
At least tidal pays the artists more
You may be right, but there are less shit services. I'll try quoboz or deezer before giving my money to jackasses like Dorcey or Spotify owner funding AI weapons.
Trying to do the same evil move as instagram to hook up people on your platform but you forgot you are a music streaming app 💀
every platform becomes TikTok at the end.
Or Snapchat, or Instagram, doesn't matter. Remember memes like "Microsoft Office will now have Stories"?
My post was not supposed to be that TikTok specifically is bad.
my point was every platform (that uses attention as money generator) would eventually be some kind of short videos which emulates pov of user (vertical interface instead of TV horizontal interface) that encourage "engagements"
finally a discord alternative
Mhmm. Still waiting for lossless…..
How has nobody used to mention that this ALREADY used to be a feature they had before they killed it. I remember in high school me and the girl I was dating used to send eachother playlists. I didn't even know spotify had killed the feature until I went looking for one of those playlists in my inbox that used to be there.
I noped the hell out of Spotify when I found out it was hosting the Joe Rogan podcast. It's only enshittified even more since. And now this.
Thanks, but I would rather gnaw of my own feet
And they still don't offer 2FA.
close enough. welcome back, iTunes Ping
I'd prefer it if they fixed the app so it doesn't play random shit and subscriptions and notifications actually work.
There's no room for growth! What are we going to do about it? IDK, so random shit that won't get adopted to placate the VCs? Give that man a raise! (TGIF gift cards only. We are going to be hemorrhaging cash soon).
WHY?!?
(yes, I know it is data mining, but still)
Have to justify those price increases somehow.
Ugh, I hate when services stray from their original purpose and add random features. WhatsApp's status thing isn't so bad, but Spotify's user messaging is just clutter. I just want to listen to music, you know? Maybe profiles for discovering new music are okay, but messaging? Nah, not needed. Keep it simple, music only.
You can connect to other people on Spotify?
Taking a page out of googles play book are we?
It'll be more popular than Twitter in a week. Not that it's hard...
That's absolutely insane that there's 3B+ people on Facebook. I honestly don't believe that number is accurate at all.
Am I underestimating how many people have phones/internet access at this point?
Everyone. Damn near everyone has a phone at this point, Facebook even handed them out to keep the user numbers growing at one point
People who live in dirt floor huts walk to churches or other gathering places to charge them. The cheapest smart phones are essentially worthless, so there's no point stealing or selling them.
And cell service isn't all that expensive to run, so it's priced to what people will pay
I think it's both. There are an unbelievable number of people on Facebook, and there are also a TON of bots and inauthentic users. Meta has every incentive to exaggerate their numbers and permit bad actors (at least up to the point that real users are driven away). Same goes for all corporate social media.
The logos for Instagram and WhatsApp are interchanged.
Soon: reels, shorts, videos and second hand underwear.
They've had the first 3 for a while
which I hate.... especially the "shorts"....
tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control.... I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)... but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.
People be like "parent's should take responsibility for their kids"... I'm like "mf, I'm trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media" And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it's not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.
What the hell!
I was just kidding/projecting on a shitty future...
And Stories. Don’t forget stories
Bring back the ruthless top 8 friends.
I just had my 8 variations of parodied Jesus.
What like in Jira?
Nope. AI chatbots. Can’t have chatbots without messaging.
UK identity verification will finally make sense
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